Cafe-Lounge 1500 Series

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  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The 1501 and 1502, rebuilt from 1801 and 1802, were used on the Firefly. The Frisco Firefly cars as best as I can tell were the only Frisco Cars to have full-width or car-body diaphrams. Pictures of these cars show porthole windows on the rear. Since these cars had a rear vestibule and lavatories at the end of the car, it would appear that these windows were more stylish than functional.
     

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  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    1503

    The 1503 had rear-facing windows in the lounge.
     

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  3. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    1504

    1504, nee 1641
     

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  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    1505

    Cafe - Lounge 1505, nee1640
     
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    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    1506

    Cafe - Lounge 1506
     

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  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    1507

    Cafe - Lounge 1507 had rear windows and a monitor roof
     

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  7. Linemender

    Linemender Guest

    Karl, I don't know a lot of the history of the Frisco. What I do know is that on four occasions in the early 60's I road the Frisco from Kansas City to Miami Oklahoma and on all occasions we chose to ride in the Grill/lounge car at the end of the train with the observation platform I could stand on and watch the countryside fall away from me. Would you be at all familiar with these cars? I have perused the internet on many occasions and have yet to find a car that would pass for what I remember. They were about half booths in the front and a grill w/short order cook, stools at the counter and tables across from the counter(?) (the cook remembered our family every time we got aboard) in the back half of the car. I wonder if it was one of the business cars retrofitted. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
     
  8. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    You rode in one of the 1600 class Buffet cars. None had a rear "observation" platform, only the normal vestibule at each end. I'll post the car diagrams. The interior of each was slightly different. I remember them from trains 107 and 108, the Sunnyland
     

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