Cabooses SLSF 1200-1274 - Underframe Details And Electric Generator Detail Photographs - Inquiry

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  1. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Paul,

    That is what I was looking for.
     
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  2. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    This is very helpful.

    I thought it was cored based on some photographs I have seen, but knowing how deep to drill the hub makes all the difference.

    Thanks, Paul.
     
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  3. Mayhem

    Mayhem Member

    Old post, but any finished photographs?
     
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  4. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Sure thing!

    The photographs from the entire build are here:

    http://www.pbase.com/mecrharris/slsf1237

    In order to save myself some time and effort for the next Frisco caboose project, I have modeled several parts in 3D and made them available for sale through Shapeways.com.

    https://www.shapeways.com/shops/he6agon?section=Caboose&sort=

    I have the parts to do Frisco caboose bodies from SLSF 1200-1274, 1275-1284 and 1285-1292.

    I am working on the battery boxes and the early style generator shown in this thread, but those parts are not ready yet.

    All my body kits require a donor Atlas caboose for the trucks and underframe.

    Here is a sample of a St. Louis Southwestern (SSW) or Cotton Belt caboose I started building earlier today using my printed parts. Please see the following link.

    http://www.pbase.com/mecrharris/image/161693868/large.jpg
     
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  5. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    This all leads to more questions for me as I know very little about Frisco cabooses.

    I bought an older run of a Oriental brass Frisco caboose. This caboose has the round smoke exhaust stack on top, and smaller battery and tool boxes on each side, with a long cylindrical appliance pointing downwards on one side.

    The axle generator is a truck mount generator that was soldered to the center like the large generator that we have talked about in this post. All I have to do is remove the truck mounted generator and install the body mounted one as described earlier in this thread.

    So far so good. The ladder tops are all wrong. Given the ladder tops were all wrong on the Oriental Brass model, I guess re-doing the ladder tops would be the easiest. If the ladders are removed, the end handrails need to be rebuilt too.

    This leaves me with several other questions. Please bear with me. So my questions are the following.

    Were there any cabooses that remained in the brownish paint that had the roof top walkways and end ladders removed or modernized during the final years of independent operation?

    What number series on the Frisco were these cabooses in?

    Any advise is a great thing here. I am not afraid of taking my resistance soldering system to work, but if I do I want it to be correct.

    Thanks guys for the help and advise.
     
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  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom,

    I assume you are talking about one of the Frisco International Car Company (ICC ) extended or wide vision cabooses.

    They came in four batches. First came SLSF 200-274 in early 1957. They came with the fancy GSC caboose trucks. In early 1968, they were renumbered to SLSF 1200-1274.

    Then a second batch arrived in mid-1968, cabooses SLSF 1275-1284. These were very similar to the first group, the most notable being the truck was a more standard, and cheaper, Barber-Bettendorf caboose truck. There also were some subtle window differences.

    In mid-1969, cabooses SLSF 1285-1292 arrived. These cabs were also a bit different in that they had a lower cupola, and also rode on the less expensive truck.

    For your information, if you can find them, Diesel Era had an excellent two article feature on the post-1945 era Frisco cabooses. These articles were in 2003, Volume 14-1 and Volume 14-2. Like all Diesel Era's, they appear on eBay now and then.

    My Frisco car diagrams are packed away due to our project in our condo. Perhaps Karl, Keith, or someone, could post the diagrams for the three series of ICC cabs or they might already be posted somewhere in frisco.org.

    I seem to remember posting them many years ago.

    K
     
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  7. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Ken, for clearing a couple things up for me.

    This helps a lot.
     
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  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom,

    I have the Overland Models brass International Car Company (ICC) caboose model.

    Painted and decaled, and it is very good, though I do not like the radio antenna. My only problem with it was that those "Fancy Dan" trucks would often short on turnouts. All my brass Frisco cabooses are Overland, except for one brass Hallmark Models car - the wood side steel copula side door caboose.

    I love them.

    K
     
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  9. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Yea, I enjoy the Overland Models cabooses I have, but this one is an older run.

    The loops on the ladder tops are wrong, and if that was not enough, one of the walkways was soldered on about a scale foot off center.

    I have found one image with the ladders and walkways removed and in brown paint, so I am removing the botched up ladders and walkways. I will do a little filling, sanding, paint it up brown, decal it and let her roll.

    The trucks have been replaced with plastic Intermountain trucks with journal box plates added.

    Rolls better and no shorting out.
     
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