Notes on Business Cars Some data that I recently posted to the FMIG e-mail list lately from my notes on Business Cars... I'm not what I would necessarily consider as being "knowledgeable," but I'll give it a go with the information I've gleaned from past issues of "All Aboard" and other odds and ends notes around the workbench. [size=+1]Frisco #2500*[/size] •Built by Ohio Falls Car Co., 2-1913 (a) Length: 70'. Weight: Unknown (b) Length: 82'. Weight: 210,100 lbs. •Renumbered #5 (5-1947) •Renumbered #7 (6-1948) •Renamed "Kansas" 6-1954 •Retired 1958; Sold 9-1966. (*Rebuilt after wreck in 1944 while on "The Texas Special" No. 2; (a) dimensions prior to accident; (b) dimensions following rebuilding. Converted for limited use as an instruction car until disposition.) [size=+1]QA&P #6666[/size] •Date Built/Builder Unknown •Steel Composite; Length: 66'. Weight: 163,500 lbs. •Leased to SL-SF 1925; Renumbered #1925. •Renumbered #8 (5-9-1947) •Renumbered #10 (3-24-1948) •Returned to QA&P (12-29-1950) for unknown final disposition. [size=+1]Frisco #1400[/size] •Wood Coach; Built by Harlan & H. Company (3-1882). •Length: 51'. Wt.: 117,400 lbs •Renumbered #9 (4-28-1947) •Renumbered #12 (3-24-1948) •Removed from service (11-1950). •Sold (5-1952) [size=+1]Frisco #1924[/size] (Originally built as Buffet-Coach #1702) •Built by Pullman Car Co. (4-1912) •All-steel. Length: 82'. Wt.: Unknown •Renumbered #3 (5-1947) •Renumbered #6 (12-1949). •Renamed "Oklahoma" (6-1954) •Renumbered #4 (1-1963) •Renumbered #3 (11-22-1963). •Sold (3-1974) [size=+1]Frisco #2200[/size] •Built by Ohio Falls Car Co. (11-1884) •52' Composite Car. Wt.: 175,500 lbs. •Renumbered #7 (5-1947) •Renumbered #9 (3-1948) •Renamed "Mississippi" (6-1954). •Placed in storage @ West Springfield (9-1958) •Sold c. early 1960s. [size=+1]Frisco #1100[/size] (Original Owner Unknown; came to SL-SF from the K.C., Ft.Scott and Memphis Rwy. Co.) •Built by Barney and Smith Car Co. (3-1883) •Composite Coach. Length: 60'. Wt. Unknown(Rebuilt at W. Springfield Coach Shops 1947; new length: 78'). •Renumbered #4 (1947) •Renumbered #8 (2-1948). •Renamed "Arkansas" (6-1954). •Retired (5-1959) •Sold (4-15-1960) From what I've read and written down, there were a lot of other renumberings (from passenger cars rebuilt into business-executive service) that make matters all the more challenging. I also know that #2600 was in the same series as the original 4 2000-series executive coaches, but was dismissed from service in 1943 (don't have any other info). "Frisco in Color" by Marre and Sommers does show a couple of pictures of what ended its life as #1 (I believe). One is in Pullman Green; the final one in a not-so-becoming O/W scheme. I remember seeing a business car in this scheme in Chaffee in summer, 1980. It was part of "Frisco Days" for Chaffee's 75th Anniversary celebration, and was coupled behind an O/W bay window caboose recently turned out by the CMS, and a road diesel (can't remember what type, though). But, I digress. I'll look forward to hearing from anyone else who can add more insight or "plug the holes."