Barriger photos online

Discussion in 'General' started by Bradley A. Scott, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. The curator of the railroad collection at the Barriger Library in St. Louis recently posted a message to the Railway & Locomotive Historical Society listserv announcing that a collection of photographs from John W. Barriger III's personal collection had been scanned and made available online here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/sets/

    One of the folders is of the Frisco. Others may be of interest as well. Some of these are pretty rough scans, but if some of them take your fancy you could contact the Library for a cleaned up version.
     
  2. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ok, so I looked through all of these, and a couple of them brought up questions about trackside details First:

    Https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12239511516/player/cc5881a86a

    From Right to left to right, there is a derail sign ( and probably a derail I can't see in the weeds ) a switch stand, what appears to be either an electronic lock box or a position sensor box, a pole mounted relay cabinet ( which might be a phone box..), and some object on top of a small pole.

    So the question is does anyone know what the thing on the small pole to the left of the pole mounted relay box is?

    Paul
     
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  3. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

  4. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Great photos for sure, I always enjoy seeing these types of photos wherever and whenever they were taken.
    I could not see a few, they seemed to be in a Blue haze. But that could be me not being logged in or similar.
    Really enjoyed the action shots from the caboose. What a great physical plant the Frisco had. That CTC looked top notch. Would have been a blast to run a train in that time and work with that caliber of people.
     
  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    I didn't get why they bothered to scan those really poor exposures?? Maybe some kind of automated system without any editing??

    Tom
     
  6. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Tom,

    Sometimes I say to myself " I was born too late" Yes it would have been a blast!

    John
     
  7. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Thank you Bradley for sharing this. Several of the sets are of interest to me.
     
  8. mark

    mark Member

    Paul,

    In photo 267 the item to the left of the relay box is a switch broom, handle down, in a verticle steel pipe. The up end is the broom head, the other end is a metal ice scraper.

    In response to your second question concerning photo 288, the item immediately to the left of the switch stand is the electric lock. I do not see a dwarf or other signal in this photo.

    On the left side of the track, just beyond the relay cabinet, low on the ground, is a battery cellar.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  9. April

    April Member

  10. April

    April Member

    The pics are pretty cool. :)

    To me it appears they are traveling in a private car on the tail end of a regular passenger train. Shooting pics as they go.

    I can see the progress of one of the trips. Sapulpa, Oklahoma. Tulsa, Claremore, Chelsea, Vinita, Afton, Seneca, Missouri...

    April
     
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  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter


    I don't see a dwarf signal in this image. Perhaps you are referring to the electric switch lock. On the turnout head blocks L-R, shunt box, electric lock, and high switch stand...something like this: http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=17858&d=1328581167
     
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  12. mark

    mark Member

    April,

    Photographs 162 and 163 were taken at the former Frisco Cafe and crew dormatory at Tennessee Yard, Memphis, TN. This is in the southeast corner of the city, just northwest of Olive Branch, MS.

    The building sat west of the Frisco's hump crest tower, south of the retarder tower, north of E. Shelby Rd. In photo 162 one can see a train being humped near the crest. The tower is just out of view behind the right edge of the building. To the right of the building, under the caboose, is the south portal of the employee pedesterian tunnel under the hump tracks.

    In photo 163 to the upper left of the folks you can make out the pair of hump switch engines pushing cars over the crest. Interesting in this photograph are the locomotives. The engine on the left is an EMD SW 9. The engine on the right is the Alco S-2 B(m) cabless booster SLSL 292.

    Unfortunately, the building is gone today. The Frisco Cafe was in the 5200 block of E. Shelby Dr. The area is now a parking / staging area for that successor railroad's Memphis Intermodal Facility. Their official address is to the west at 4814 Lamar Ave., Memphis, TN 38118.

    Please see https://maps.google.com/maps?q=memp...209&hnear=Memphis,+Shelby,+Tennessee&t=h&z=18.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  13. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Images 248, 249, 250 depict the Frisco's first installation of concrete ties which was placed on the west side(RR North) of Cabool, MO. The Frisco also placed a large billboard along ROW to advertise the fact to all passersby, both rail and highway.
     
  14. gbnf

    gbnf Member

    Copyright question. The photos with a blue cast are easily copied and restored to normal colors, but if I post them here that is a redistribution. What are the rules regarding flickr, and museum collections available on such a website or a museum/library website?
     
  15. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Some of those locations have changed very little, other than the growth of a lot of trees. It was pretty neat seeing all the shots at Cherokee Yard and the progression from Norris to Sapulpa. I ran that territory as an engineer quite a bit last year, so getting that same perspective in another time is very cool.
     
  16. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    That would have been some great content for the Frisco Archive to be cleaned up and added. :(
     
  17. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Mark and Karl,

    thanks for the info. I was looking at the electric switch lock as though it was a dwarf signal.

    At least now I know what the electric switch lock looked like.

    Paul
     
  18. paul slavens

    paul slavens Member

    r c h. I liked seeing those shots from Norris to Sapulpa as well ! I live in that area and have been there my entire life and have seen it change as the years go by. Nice to see it in the early 1960s or so. Great pics
     

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