Bachmann Decapod Release 2019 Announcement

Discussion in 'New Products' started by rjthomas909, Aug 2, 2019.

  1. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

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  2. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Decapod fans are rejoicing in general. The Bachmann Spectrum decapod has got to be the coolest non-brass HO steam engine ever offered by anyone.

    Previous releases had a variety of issues, mostly decoder related, that hopefully are fixed with the new one.

    The WOW decoder is an unknown to me. Can anyone offer a comparison between it and the Tsunami2-2?
     
  3. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The 1624 is depicted in the catalog. This locomotive was an oil burner and it had the air compressor mounted on the pilot beam. The model is a coal burner sans the pilot mounted air compressor.
     
  4. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    For more than $500, you would expect some accuracy. A drawing at this point? Maybe production model will be better?
     
  5. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    I can’t complain. At least they are doing a relatively good Frisco engine instead of a non prototypical Pennsylvania, NYC, or UP one because those roads sell well.

    If they did all the super specialized SLSF stuff the price would be a lot higher. It would nice, though, if Bachmann at least would include an alternate oil bunker, like they did with their Richmond 4-4-0.
     
  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    ...or just put a correct number on it
     
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  7. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    I would bet that the Illinois Railroad Museum, home of the 1630, would sell a lot of HO Frisco decapods.
     
  8. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    What were the numbers of those decs? How many were there?

    They did an incorrect number on the ATSF one too, I believe.
     
  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    1613-1632... twenty locomotives from several builders. The 1621 was destroyed by derailment and explosion and replaced.
     
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  10. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Then what is the matter with the number 1624?
     
  11. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Wonder who came up with "chuffinity?" I also note that in the promotional copy Bachmann referred to the locomotives as "2-10-2's." Oh well....

    GS
     
  12. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Well, I think I will get one and change the number. That makes since to me. Nothing else does, but I'm ok with it.
     
  13. JZesch

    JZesch Member

    Wait, I just saw the 1621 at the National Museum of Transportation in St. Louis. Is that the replacement?
     
  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Yes

    the Annual Reports indicates that the original 1621 was destroyed during 1921. We must make an inference since the roster of Bolsheviks was 20 during 1920, and that number dropped to 19 during 1921. Likewise, during 1927, the number of Bolshevks rose from 19 to 20, and by inference we can assume that the addition came from the FSS&RI. Will have to read the fine print to see if I can find more details.

    It would seem that the process to replace 1ST-1621 took several years to complete. I also wonder if the extension to Pensacola played a part with the acquisition of FSS&RA 101? The FEM show that the coal burning Bolsheviks handled many of the trains on the Mud Line. Did the Frisco anticipate that traffic demand would require another 2-10-0?

    The Bolsheviks were purchased under two separate equipment purchase contracts with the US War Department and not the USRA. The first ten arrived during 1919, and the second ten arrived during 1920. Both contracts were identical... Ten locomotives for $250,000; $25,000 down with 9 equal installment payments paid annually with an interest rate of 6% per annum on deferred payments.
     
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  15. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The 1624 was an oil burner and it had its air compressor mounted on the pilot beam. The locomotive depicted in the catalog is a coal burner and it carries its air compressor on the left side. The Frisco Bolsheviks were a mix, and using the number 1618, for example would be fine.


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    http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-conte...eptember-23-1948-Arthur-B.-johnson-Brooks.jpg
     
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  16. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Oh, ok, I got it. 1624 is valid if detailed differently.

    Where did the coal burners operate? They get all the way down to Pensacola and Mobile?

    Good question anyway. Where was the dividing point on the system between coal and oil fuel? Memphis? When the Frisco had the Gulf Coast Lines, what was the fuel? Oil?
     
  17. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Looking at those decapod photos, I have to say that , in the immortal words of my late sister in law who knew nothing about railroads but summed it up better than anyone while looking at my models ..... “that’s a good looking train!” An understatement at best!

    As a Frisco fan of marginal knowledge, I do declare Frisco steam engines to be in the top five best looking engines in my thinking...... the MP, the T&NO / SP, the TP, and the Cotton Belt. NYC Hudsons and K4’s, move over.

    I’m also surprised to see a stack light on the coal burning 1618. I thought they were strictly an oil burning deal.
     
  18. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Considering they've already had two runs of this wheel configuration for the Frisco, and extras are being sold on ebay regularly for $100 or less, wouldnt it be wise to produce something else? They have plenty of other nice models in their lineup that they could produce a Frisco engine for.
     
  19. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    Acronyms I don’t know:

    FEM

    FSS&RI (maybe the Fort Smith, subiaco & Rock Island? I only have name recognition with that.)

    And the “mud line “.
     
  20. patrick flory

    patrick flory Member

    “They have plenty of other nice models in their lineup that they could produce a Frisco engine for......”

    The Bachmann decapod is a popular model. The molds exist already, ie little start up cost. There were issues with the earlier ones that have likely been corrected.

    Manufacturers produce models to make money. I’d love to see someone offer MP 2-8-0’s and the beautiful MP heavy ten wheeler but I’m not holding my breath.
     

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