Athearn Genesis Frisco FP7A & F9B units in O/W paint scheme

Discussion in 'Electo-Motive Division (EMD)' started by geep07, Apr 24, 2015.

  1. geep07

    geep07 Member

  2. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Those look very nice, maybe some of our knowlegable members can tell us how close they are to the real ones.
     
  3. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    WOW! at over $500.19, dont think I will be seeing any of these on my MRR unless someone brings their own over LOL. Talk about pricing me out of the hobby.
     
  4. fr613

    fr613 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I sure wish they'd do them in black and yellow. Say, after Mars lights and 5 chimes, but before the abbreviated scheme..... about 1955-1963 appearance. I'd like to think that we'll see those later, but I'm not holding my breath. I know that some will disagree, but I think they picked the wrong scheme. It's probably set in cement now, but just out of curiosity, which scheme would everyone else prefer?

    Dan Hall
     
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  5. magistrate

    magistrate Member

    I vote for the black and yellow. I guess mainly because I model the transition era, but also because the orange and white scheme just leaves me cold.
     
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  6. geep07

    geep07 Member

    I totally agree. I would like to see the B/Y austerity scheme. It is a simplified one and has the B/Y tradition of being a Frisco locomotive.

    John|-|
     
  7. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I don't fall into the "knowledgeable member" category, necessarily, but referencing photos in Frisco in Color of #43, particularly, the big details look good on this model. While I'm not sure that the Athearn illustrations are their final version, the prototype included an orange rotary beacon and white grabs. The side louvers/grills also appear to be Mandarin Orange, and not gray/silver. The placement/styling of the nose coonskin, overlapping the bottom orange band looks pretty good.

    The biggies are that the model is sans-dynamic brakes but does look to be boiler equipped.

    And, I do prefer the B/Y scheme: not in the truncated cigar-band austerity form, necessarily, nor in its original as-delivered form. The numbers beneath the cab windows with green anti-glare noses and 5-chime horns were the best look, to me. For a diesel, that is.

    Best Regards,
     
  8. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    B&Y for my modeling era too. FWIW: Street price should be much lower than the MSRP.
     
  9. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I'm glad to see orange & white versions of these F units. The spark arresters, 5 chime horns, and pin antenna appear to be correct, although, as Chris has pointed out, the lack of rotary beacon is an obvious omission. Intermountain produced a FP7 and F7B a few years ago in black & yellow, and though they had obvious flaws, they suffice on my roster after some modifications. I have examples of Athearn Genesis and Stewart F3's so I have adequate b&y F units. As far as I know, this is the first appearance of a commercially available F9B offered in Frisco livery. If these are successful, we may see b&y units in the future.

    Rich
     
  10. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Prefer black and yellow, if for no other reason than the orange and white pretty much precludes their use on passenger trains like 709-710. I imagine Athearn decided to do O&W because they did a previous F-unit set in black and yellow (though not FPs).

    GS
     
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  11. paul slavens

    paul slavens Member

    I was surprised to see them offered in orange and white, and I was glad to see them. F units have been offered several times in black and yellow by various makers, but orange and white ones not so much. I grew up in the orange and white era, and I never got to see a black and yellow Frisco engine. I want to get a set.
     
  12. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    One thing that hasn't been mentioned and maybe it's no big deal, but it looks like a B-Unit, either F-7B or F-9B can't b purchased separately. Is that correct? To me that's not right.
     
  13. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Looks like a F9B is gonna cost you over $500.00. And you get an FP7 with it. I dont like it when they bundle stuff together like this either. Surely (I know you dont like being called Shirley) this isnt right, and you can but the F9B separately.
     
  14. DanHyde

    DanHyde Member

    Kinda makes me happy with g scale! I can get a pair of F7's for less.
    Dan
     
  15. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Lot of good comments, I've been wanting the O/W F series. Would have been nice to have a beacon, the mars light is nice.
    Makes the dollars a little more justified. Maybe we will see others in the future, I am surprised at the amount of Frisco new models.
    Early 60's, the Diesel Shops was full of F-Units. Seem's every time I went in their, I was looking down the pit walkways at these engnes. Guess I will have to have a couple, a buy one get one free.
     
  16. tmfrisco

    tmfrisco Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Well, two pushers have now posted prices on these units. Toy Train Heaven is taking pre-orders for: FP7 non-sound for $152 and with sound $232. FP7 and F7 or F9 together non-sound $288 and with sound $416. Wholesale Train are selling them for: FP7 non-sound $129 and with sound $200. FP7 and F7 or F9 together non-sound $250 and with sound $360. These prices are certainly more affordable than the announced price and makes it easier to buy them.

    Maybe some one can chime in on the price that Spring Creek models will take preorders as I know several buy from them.

    Terry
     
  17. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Spring Creek Model Trains: The non-sound of the A unit is $143 - with sound $218. Non-sound A/B set is $270 and with sound $390.
     
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  18. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    If someone wants a no sound FP7, I want an F9B no sound we could buy the pair and split it.
     
  19. FriscoFriend

    FriscoFriend Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    To All:

    I just spoke to Deb at Spring Creek and she appreciates the interest in the group wanting a price quote on the Athearn Genesis Frisco F-Unit offering. She is willing to offer what I feel is a very generous 30% discount to us if she receives the order before 5/22. The discount will then drop to 25% if ordered before 9/1. They can be contacted at (402) 365-7628 or customerservice@springcreekmodeltrains.com. Be sure you identify yourself as a Frisco.org member.

    The prices and order cut-off dates are below:

    FP7A

    Non-Sound MSRP $187.98 - prior to 5/22 - $132.00 == before 9/1($143.00)
    Sound MSRP $289.98 - prior to 5/22 - $203.00 == before 9/1 ($218.00)

    FP7A, F7B or F9B pair

    Non-Sound MSRP $359.98 - prior to 5/22 - $252.00 == before 9/1 ($270.00)
    Sound MSRP $519.98 - prior to 5/22 - $364.00 == before 9/1 ($390.00)

    For those of you not familiar with Spring Creek Model Trains they are a large dealer with a stand-alone location in the small town of Deshler, NE. Most of us know them from meeting with them at one of the more than 40 Train Shows that attend each year.
     
  20. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Bob
    Thats good news, I know we always appreciate all the efforts you and others make to get the MFGRS attention on issues, always want to thank all of the folks that have their "ear" for the input, having said that...
    Does anyone know why Athearn isnt offering a F9B separately? I mean why would they loose those potential sales?
    Not trying to imply that you, nor anyone else, for that matter, would know why. But it is a good thing to discuss maybe.
    I am personally glad they chose a F9B unit number that I dont currently have LOL.
    I am friends with a hobby shop with 3 generations of owners, they just came back from the big Las Vegas model convention and reported that no Athearn reps were even there. I know Athearn has had some shakeups lately but to not have anyone at one of the nations largest conventions is a bit bewildering for me.
    Can you or anyone else close to the issue perhaps enlighten us? Or was I mis-informed?
     

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