Any diagrams/drawings available for BW cabooses 1726-1735?

Discussion in '1726-1735' started by r c h, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    I'm looking for any drawings or diagrams for the bay window cabooses in the 1726-1735 range. If none are available, does anyone have access to a prototype to take measurements? I would like to make a model of one, but I lack some basic overall measurements (width, length, height, etc.) needed to scale from photos. Armed with enough data, I can produce some detailed 2D and 3D drawings in AutoCAD format.
  2. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Supporter

    There were two of these in Picher, OK until just recently but unfortunately I believe they have both been scrapped. Maybe someone else can verify this.
  3. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Supporter Supporter

    I wonder if the SP's version was close the Frisco version?
    The museum out here in Perris has an SP (I think).
    I'll find out and get some details.
  4. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    No, the only real similarities I can find are they both have bay windows, welded construction and X-panel roofs. The bays are different sizes and the windows are different shapes/sizes.

    I think some of these ended up on a shortline, so once I track them down, hopefully I can contact someone in the area.
  5. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Supporter

    There is only 1 bay window left in service on BNSF, the SLSF 1731/BN 12610 at Mandan, ND. There were a couple sold to the Columbus & Greenville in Columbus, MS., not sure if they are still on property. That's all that's left, the rest have been scrapped.

  6. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer


    Thanks, I'm glad to hear there's at least one left on property. I'll see if I can have my brother track down 12610 for me. The drive to Columbus is a little far for me. Anyone here from Mississippi or Alabama?
  7. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    I located 12610 on the mainframe and my brother is going to see about taking some measurements for me. I'd imagine its a hot item this time of year - it gets mighty cold in Nodak.

    Is there a chance I could find anything in Kansas City? I'll be there for the rest of this month and I'll be looking for something to do.
  8. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

  9. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Thanks for the link! I'm hopeful I can find someone in the area who can get some additional photos or data on this caboose.
  10. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

  11. r c h

    r c h Ft Worth - Tulsa Engineer

    Thanks, Chris. I think for its time that model of 1730 was pretty good, but given the wealth of prototype specific cabooses along with all the related detail parts that have been produced in the two decades since that article, a pretty accurate model could be cobbled together fairly easily. I would love to find a general arrangement drawing like the wide vision caboose in the same issue of Caboose Kibitzer. If that fails, I will have to rely on measurements of the prototype. Failing that, I'll scale from photos.

    Just FYI for anyone who's interested, I found out that CAGY 51 (formerly SLSF 1732) is still around on a Genesee & Wyoming property somewhere. The other Frisco caboose they acquired was indeed scrapped.

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