While looking through the Freight Car diagram book, I came across the 152626-152899 50' cars: If I'm reading the diagram correctly, the cars had double side door, and end doors on the "A" end. Both Roundhouse and Walthers have versions of these cars: Would this be a reasonable stand in?
Looks pretty close to me. At least the diagonal braces are right. The ones for N scale go the wrong way. Joe
I was thinking that one door was only a 1/2 width door? Does the drawing seem to indicate that? I may be recalling or thinking of a totally different railroad?
That’s what I was wondering, too. I haven’t found a real picture of one of these yet, but I’m easily distracted so that may be why.
The diagram implies two doors with the overall opening 12' 5 3/4" with a clear opening of 12' 1" (the doors would not pull completely clear of the opening). The smaller door is shown as 3' 11 13/16" wide, leaving the larger door to be approximately 8' 5 15/16".
In this photo, the doors appear to be of equal size: http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-conte...805-date-and-location-unknown-Joe-Collias.jpg Rich
I was wondering if the line indicates a half door, or if that line indicates the middle of the car, showing how the opening was off-center? Thanks for that--just what I was looking for. I suppose that means I have to find a small Frisco Lines herald...
I agree with you. The line is the center of the car and it's door is offset. Also noticed the door itself is not in the drawing, just the opening. Joe
The opening of the automobile boxcar appears to be off center makes sense. You would pull in the first auto on the longest side of the opening then back it in to the shortest side, then the next auto just pulls in to the longest side. This takes less maneuvering. However the Collias photo shows the doors as equal size and appears to be in the middle of the car. Did this car have open end doors? I have a model of a Rock Island Automobile dbl. door diagonal braced car and the doors are off set of center and has open end doors. The drawing shows it as centered but the dimensions do not indicate that. Sometimes a quick fix is warranted rather than redraw, this is called a Shop Drawing. A detailed drawing of a Shop Drawing are called As-Built Drawings. Each industrial aspect has certain ways of accomplishing task.
These cars had end doors, I believe. I think the doors are off center in the picture if you look at the angled brackets.
Gary, Agreed! Also in regards to the Collias photo, the doors are off center by the number of angled brackets. Illusion of the angled shot! John
I did some metrics on the photo image. The two doors are approximately one fourth the the total length of the car. On a 50' car, that would be approximately 12' 6". That fits the diagram, so based on the image, there are two equal width doors about 6' wide. Updated note: See my post #24 this thread.
MDC Roundhouse once offered this car in a Frisco paint scheme, but the brown color was significantly lighter than what is depicted in the Collias photo. Also, the dimensions of the end door are shown in the diagram. Rich
Roundhouse made a variety of 50' externally braced cars: I have 3, in Great Northern and Northern Pacific, that I got from an estate sale. The MDC/Roundhouse model # for Frisco Steel Double door auto end is 2138: EDIT: I just noticed the car in picture has different numbers on the doors...
I looked in http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/table-of-freight-equipment-sources.2534/ and didn't see it. I was able to do some detective work after your post and find the number and the picture.
Good sleuthing work, Gary! I have one that I nabbed off of ebay; the model was available for only a short time. Rich
