4-4-0 action

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  1. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

  2. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Yay! That's cool! More! More! More! She's bookin' down the tracks! Nice video. Nice little wobble too! That means your track work is perfect for the era! I have been trying to decide whether to keep track in long length like flex, or to cut it into scale sections and have joints just like they did back then. It would really make things more realistic.

    Great job Jim. Keep it up! Can't wait to see the Watermelon Cars in the consist.
     
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  3. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks but that little wobble is just the nature of the Bachmann loco. She's just shaking her butt. I would go with flex track for better electrical integrity. Just my opinion. I would like to add those plates that connected rails as a track detail some day. I forgot what they're called.
     
  4. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    They're called rail joiners. They hold rails butt end together. The tie plates are what seat the rails on the ties. Most railroads were not using tie plates yet around the TOC, but were becoming more frequent. Spiking directly to the tie did not prevent rail spreading, thus the invention of the tie plate came about which seated the rail and prevented its lateral movement. As for the engine shaking, I think it adds just enough realism to think that it's the track, not the train. I like how it is transferred into the rest of the train. It's more realistic.
     
  5. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks.
     
  6. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    The term for the rail joiners is fish plates
     
  7. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    This is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
     
  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    "Fish Plates" that's it! I need to get me some.
     
  9. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Actually, on the railroads I've worked for and currently work for, they're called "angle bars". Angle bars that join different weight rail are called "compromise bars" or "offset bars" (or "offsets" for short).

    The above is simply "FWIW". Not my intention to start a holy war about model railroad terms and common use prototype nomenclature (i.e. "turnout" vs "switch", "lashup" vs "MU consist", etc), just telling what my experiences have been.

    Andre
     
  10. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Good point. On the C&O, we called 'em "rail joiners". No offense meant just like Andre.
     
  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Purely educational.

    Fish plates, angle bars, joint bars, splice bars; just different terms for the same pieces. The term fish plate comes from the French verb fichier, to fasten. They are literally fastener plates.
     
  12. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Seems as if I've seen these offered as an HO scale detail item. I need to look about for them. I think they were plastic but maybe brass as well.
     
  13. JamesP

    JamesP James Pekarek

    Jim, you had me at "4-4-0 action." Absolutely beautiful scene!

    That minor wobble struck me as perfectly natural. My Americans may have had their drivers machined down to the thousandth, but they sure do wag their tails over any track imperfection... just the nature of the beast. Your engine runs like a swiss watch.
     
  14. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    What media player do I need to view the above video clip?

    Thanks.

    Andre
     
  15. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    It's a photobucket movie. You should be able to click the link and it'll play.
     
  16. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I've actually given thought to modeling the fishplate detail by using narrow strips of .005 styrene with "rivets" embossed with a pounce wheel, or by using a filed-down needle in a pin vise. I've seen them in photos of Paul Dolkos' old B&M layout, and found it to be a nice touch.

    Best Regards,
     
  17. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Thanks for the reply.

    Neither Internet Explorer nor Firefox will load/play the video. Windows Media Player cannot handle the mp4 suffix, either.

    Oh well.

    Andre
     
  18. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter


    For a nice set of angle bars, I would suggest Details West RB934
     

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  19. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    FYI. It runs well on my pc using QuickTime Player.

    Ken
     
  20. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Sorry, Andre. I don't know how else to post it. If it makes you feel any better it's not really a very exciting video. Just my old 4-4-0 rolling 'round the bend.
     

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