19th Street Yard - 1951 Flood

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  1. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Folks -
    From the Univ. of Missouri Digital Library (Collection of L. Perry Cookingham).

    The view is looking south from what appears to be the vicinity of today's I-670 overpass...maybe further south. Mark, Rick or other KC-area denizens might be able to confirm or clarify.

    The coal dock and part of one of the roundhouses can be seen, along at least two (maybe three) 4400-class Mountain-types.

    https://dl.mospace.umsystem.edu/umkc/islandora/object/umkc:2879

    Best Regards,
     
  2. mark

    mark Member

    Chris,

    Thank you for posting this photograph.

    You are correct that this is just south of today's I-670 overpass into Kansas. The shot is looking southwest from Kansas City, MO on Beardsley Road at approximately West 16th Street. The power pole line is still on the hillside. The trees on the hillside have grown considerably in 59 years.

    There are a number items of interest in the photograph. As Chris indicated north of the engine house are the steam engines 4422, 4412, plus another. By this date they are in storage as reserve power having been displaced by new diesel locomotives. There are at least 11 cabooses in the image. Next to a string these is a cut of Frisco stock cars.

    A smaller rail crane and outfit car is next to the 4422. Also in the yard are various Frisco 40' and 50' boxcars, gondolas and rib and offset side open hoppers. On the far right are 2 Warren Petroleum tank cars, one each with a standard and a pressure dome.

    In the distance behind the smoke stack is West 23rd Street Trafficway. Above the shop buildings is the original American Royal complex (prior to rebuilding in the 1990s). Above that is the Kansas City Terminal (KCT) Railway bridge over the Kansas (Kaw) River.

    To the right of the top "x" cross brace of the power pole is the 2 arch span Rock Island crossing of the Kansas River. Today, the Kemper Arena blocks most of the view of the bridge from this vantage point. To its right, on this side of the river channel is the south end of the Kansas City Stockyards.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Mark, thanks for the additional info on the various landmarks in this photo. There are certainly a lot of them!

    So much to potentially model on our diminutive KC Terminal Layout, and so little space!

    Best Regards,
     
  4. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    I have seen this photo before but missed the long structure at the bottom of the photo. Looks like it had rail service, whatever it is. Any ideas.

    Also what is the structure just this side of the large round house and in front of the two trees. It appears to be a small 4-6 stall round house and may serve the second turntable that was at 19th St. What do you think?
     
  5. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Rick, it took a while but I found some earlier 19th St yard maps that Karl and Paul Weston have posted

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/kansas-city-mo-19th-st-round-houses.1680/

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/kansas-city-mo-19th-st-round-houses.1680/#post-9796

    Based on these, my guess is that the long structure is what the 1939 Sanborn map shows as a "Stock Room" (i.e. stores building?) with an attached machine shop and blacksmith shop. The

    The latter structure would indeed appear to be part of the northernmost roundhouse shown on the maps, albeit in a truncated state. That would make sense considering what the Frisco did to "convert" roundhouses to diesel servicing facilities (Lindenwood, Chaffee, et. al.).

    Off-topic, but man do the Jayhawks look unbeatable or what? Ben and Michelle went to the game in Columbia 2 weeks ago, and left Mizzou Arena feeling rather downcast. As hard as it is to say, my vote is that KU will be the last team standing.

    This does not mean that anyone will hear me chanting that dulcet "rooooock chaaaaaalk..." anytime. It's probably more likely that I would start modeling the Penn Central. :)

    Best Regards,
     
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  6. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

    Here are my pictures of the 1951 flood at 19th street.
    Richard
     
  7. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

  8. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

    here are more pictures. Can anyone confirm that the FTC offices were in the 12th st. warehouse?
    Richard
     
  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter


    The address for the FTC office in KC was 1115 W 12th Street. So, yes.
     

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