1952 Passenger Consists from Thayer dispatcher sheets...

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  1. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Train 106 Kansas City-Florida Special (Running between Memphis and Springfield)

    --SLSF 2019 E-8
    --No number probably E-7 or E-8
    --SLSF 387 Baggage
    --SLSF 463 Express Boxcar
    --SLSF 2043 (ex-60' RPO) Probably mail storage
    --SLSF 202 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 378 Baggage
    --SLSF 1093 Coach-Sleeper (Crew dorm)
    --SLSF 1203 "Deluxe" Coach
    --SR 831 Southern Ry. LW Chair Car
    --SLSF Kansas City HW Diner-Lounge
    --Elmira College HW Sleeper
    --Clover Plant HW Sleeper
    --SLSF 1466 Cimarron River LW 14-4 Sleeper
    (Next six cars probably a troop movement)
    --T 5115 Pullman Tourist Sleeper
    --3046 Pullman Tourist Sleeper
    --6058 Pullman Tourist Sleeper
    --Friendship HW Sleeper
    --McCormack HW Sleeper
    --Lourie HW Sleeper
    --Stardrift HW Sleeper
    (19 Cars)

    --NOTE: "Baggage" Cars may haul Railway Express, U.S. Mail, Milk, Cream, Newspaers, Magazines as well as passenger baggage. One baggage car carried the express messenger.
     
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  2. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Train 105 Kansas City-Florida Special (Running between Springfield and Memphis)

    --SLSF 2018 E-8
    --No number probably E-7 or E-8
    --SR 309 Baggage
    --SLSF 464 Express Boxcar
    --SLSF 438 Baggage
    --SLSF 387 Baggage
    --SLSF 2043 (ex-60' RPO) Probably storage mail.
    --SLSF 202 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SR 523 Baggage
    --SLSF 1092 Coach-Sleeper (Crew dorm)
    --SLSF 1207 "Deluxe" Coach
    --SR 816 Southern Ry. LW Chair Car
    --SLSF 1506 HW Cafe-Lounge
    --Trinity College HW Sleeper
    --Clover Town HW Sleeper
    --SLSF 1457 Merrimac River LW 14-4 Sleeper
    (14 cars)
     
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  3. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Train 101 The Sunnyland (Running between Springfield and Memphis)

    --SLSF 568 GP-7
    --SLSF 135 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 366 Baggage
    --SLSF 343 Baggage
    --SLSF 1072 HW Coach
     
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  4. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Train 102 The Sunnyland (Running between Memphis and Springfield)

    --SLSF 572 GP-7
    --SLSF 385 Baggage
    --SLSF 383 Baggage
    --SLSF 204 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 1102 HW Coach
     
  5. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Train 808 The Sunnyland (Running between Memphis and St. Louis)

    --SLSF 2005 E-7
    --SLSF 427 Baggage
    --SLSF 206 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 1070 HW Coach
    --SLSF 1611 Snack Car
     
  6. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Probabaly train 807, The Sunnyland, running between St. Louis and Memphis.

    --SLSF 2005 E-7
    --SLSF 346 Baggage
    --SLSF 383 Baggage
    --SLSF 204 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 1102 HW Coach
    --SLSF 1611 Snack Car
     
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  7. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Probabaly train #808, The Sunnyland, running between Memphis and St.Louis??

    --SLSF 2017 E-8
    --SLSF 385 Baggage
    --SLSF 383 Baggage
    --SLSF 204 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 1102 HW Coach
    --SLSF 1605 Snack Car
    --Clover Springs HW Sleeper
    --ATSF 14 Business Car
     
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  8. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Train 807 The Sunnlyland (Running between St. Louis and Memphis)

    --SLSF 2019 E-8
    --PRR 9063 Baggage or Express Boxcar
    --SLSF 344 Baggage
    --SLSF 205 30' RPO-Baggage
    --SLSF 1080 HW Coach
    --SLSF 1607 Snack Car
     
  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Tom, its always ineresting to see psgr train consists.

    Posts 6 & 7 appear to be the Sunnyland.

    When I lived in Chaffee, during the early 60's, "meal service" on the Sunnyland was provided by one of the local cafes. Box lunches, snacks, and soft drinks were sold from a large wire basket, which was carried aboard the train during its station stop. I wonder when the snack cars were discontinued?

    Cars equipped with messenger facilities were designated with a 6" (gold) star, which was generally placed above the car number.
     
  10. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Six may be the Sunnyland, but seven has a sleeping car. Not sure, I don't have the original sheet. It belonged to a friend of mine and I just took notes from it. There are probably errors here and there. The dispatcher sheet didn't note the "star" cars.

    Tom G.
     
  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I'd wager that the Clover Springs has something to do with that ATSF business car, which is tacked on the rear of the train. Else it was a deadhead move.
     
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  12. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    I corrected posts six and seven. I agree with Karl's educated guesses. I don't have the original sheets to check my notes with.

    Tom G.
     
  13. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom -
    Splendid information. Valuable stuff for modeler and history buff alike. This does confirm that I'd need more space in my workshop to accurately model 105/106.

    Best Regards,
     
  14. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Eleven or twelve cars would have been more typical for the day and more practical to model. Nineteen was excetional.

    Tom G.
     
  15. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    More for another thread, but I'm curious to see/hear how many other folks are working to accurately model Frisco passenger train consists. I have a whole bunch o' Uncle Pete Spectrum heavyweight cars w/clerestory roofs that I hope to Frisco-fy some day.

    Best Regards,
     

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