100-111

Discussion in 'RS1' started by karl, Apr 1, 2004.

  1. karl

    karl Guest

    110 Rs1

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    Photo appears to have been taken in Chaffee, Mo. (klrwhizkid)
     
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  2. Here are some photos of slsf 102 & 103

    Take care, Gary

    PS: I will put some more diesel pictures up soon - my grandson is showing me how.

    PS - I just found this site - great job to who ever is running it! :)

    slsf102.jpg slsf103a.jpg
     
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  3. myopiceagle

    myopiceagle Member

    Could anyone point me in the right direction on where I might find information on where RS-1's were assigned in the mid-50's? Specifically, did any RS-1's serve on the Ft. Smith sub during that timeframe?
     
  4. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ethan,
    I think there is a photo in Frisco in Color of an RS-1 in either Springdale or Rogers. I will have to double-check if others can't confirm in the meantime.

    The photo that Karl posted above of #110 is at Chaffee, MO. Ken McElreath observed many of the RS-1s operating out of Chaffee on the River Division in the 1950s. I'm not sure of the location of the other two.

    Best Regards,
     
  5. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    In fact, I have a b/w photo of #111 outside of the Cape Girardeau one-stall engine house in 1962. I used to have the Chaffee Roundhouse Foreman's records from 1957, I think, that listed every engine assignment for every day of the year, including instances of RS-1's double heading on the main as well as the Branches, especially for MofW extras. I recall that at least seven RS-1's were assigned to Chaffee then. Unfortunately, I donated that record book to the Frisco Museum, so it's in a dark hole somewhere.

    Ken McElreath

    That picture is on post #110 of this thread: http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/cape-girardeau-mo.769/page-6 (klrwhizkid)
     
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  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken, I'm glad you mentioned this. I have printed your February 1978 FMIG letter that mentions the foreman's book, and includes a single day's cross-section from March 9, 1961with the following RS-1 assignments at Chaffee. I don't have the newsletter number handy, but will try to edit and add that sometime.

    Yard Switcher: 106
    Work Extra South: 107, 110
    Kennett Local #851: 108
    Ready Locomotives: 102, 103, 104

    So, there are at least 7 RS-1 locomotives accounted here. However, 44-tonner #5 is listed at the Chaffee Roundhouse undergoing inspection and maintenance, so I wonder if another RS-1 would have been filling in for it?

    I also didn't know that there was still a one-stall engine house in Cape that late!

    Thanks for clarifying, and also for all that you have done to document the River Division!

    Best Regards,
     
  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: 110 Rs1

    Attached is a newly-acquired photo from Ken McElreath of SLSF#111 Alco RS-1 at Cape Girardeau that he mentioned in post #5 where he states that #111 is in front of the single-stall engine shed that was still in Cape in 1963.

    SLSF #111 RS-1 at Cape.jpg


    Thanks for the photo, Ken.
     
  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    That...is nothing short of delicious. Keith/Ken, I don't have my maps handy: was the engine house just south of the "old bridge" near the present-day Missouri Barge Lines facility? I recall seeing early 1900s maps of an old turntable in that vicinity.

    While I do like my Frisco steam power, the RS-1s are probably my FFD (Favorite Frisco Diesels).

    Best Regards,
     
  9. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris,

    The engine house was west, across the tracks from the Missouri Drydock, with the switch lead near the "SHOPS" station sign on the mainline. It was nestled close to the cement unloading facility.

    Ken McElreath
     
  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: 110 Rs1

    Chris, based on a couple of new aerial photos that I just acquired from the Southeast Missourian and Ken's photo, the location is as indicated below.

    Old Engine House location.JPG
     
  11. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks, Keith...I can't even count how many times I drove by that location on my way to work or classes. Driving in from Chaffee, it was definitely my preferred route, assuming that time allowed.

    Best Regards,
     
  12. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    Re: 110 Rs1

    I'm new to this thread. I'm researching former AT&N equipment. Any info about the build dates and original paint schemes of AT&N/Frisco 100-111 is greatly appreciated. I'm considering looking for a used HO scale, DC, AT&N RS-1 or trying to purchase one in any other road name and repaint it in it's original AT&N paint scheme...whatever that was. According to wikipedia, RS-1s were built from 1941-1960. The Frisco purchased the AT&N in 1948.
    1. When were 100-111 built?
    2. If 100-111 were built/AT&N-owned prior to the the Frisco's purchase of the AT&N in 1948, what did their original AT&N paint scheme look like?
     
  13. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: 110 Rs1

    1. Per Harper and Marre

    101 Shipped 11-20-44; ret 5-68 EMD
    102 Shipped 12-29-44; ret 9-69 EMD
    103 Shipped 3-21-45; ret 11-69 EMD
    104 Shipped 3-27-45; ret 11-69 EMD
    105 Shipped 6-8-45; ret 11-69 EMD
    106 Shipped 10-22-45; ret 1-67 EMD
    107 Shipped 5-24-46; ret 1-67 EMD
    108 Shipped 6-4-46; ret 11-69 EMD
    109 Shipped 6-6-46; ret 10-68 GE
    110 Shipped 8-7-46; ret 11-67 EMD
    111 Shipped 8-18-46; ret 7-69 EMD

    2. 101, 102, 105, and 110 may be seen in their black and yellow AT&N livery at this site: http://www.msrailroads.com/AT&N.htm
     
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  14. trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017)

    trainchaser007 (Brandon Adams RIP 9/22/2017) Passed away September 22, 2017

    Re: 110 Rs1

    Thanks so much. That info is greatly appreciated. That answers my question as to when they were built...1944-46...which means they were built before the Frisco bought the AT&N in 1948. From that I assume that it is possible that 100-111 had an exclusively AT&N paint scheme before their familiar B/Y FRISCO scheme with AT&N sub-lettering.
    Does anyone know what the original paint scheme was on the AT&N ALCO RS-1s from 1944 until the Frisco bought the AT&N in 1948?
     
  15. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: 110 Rs1

    Answered in my previous post....

    101, 102, 105, and 110 may be seen in their ORIGINAL black and yellow AT&N livery at this site: http://www.msrailroads.com/AT&N.htm
     
  16. Jim Burgess

    Jim Burgess Member

    The RS-1s were regular power on the Leachville sub from at least the early 50's until the end of service. Sometimes they were double headed.
     
  17. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks for the insight, Jim. It's good to have info on what motive power was predominant on the River Division subs/branches in the first-gen. diesel days. If you or any fellow Paragouldians have photos of Frisco action from this region, it'd be fun to see them.

    Best Regards,
     
  18. Larry F.

    Larry F. Member

    Louis Marre's "Frisco's Diesel Power" has a shot of 111 switching in Springdale, AR so it's conceivable it worked the whole sub. Larry F.
     
  19. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    The RS-1's hung around a long time, they certainly were more durable than the RS-2's!

    Tom G.
     
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