Lebanon, MO, Lebanon Subdivision, MP 181.8

Discussion in 'Depots G-P' started by RICHCRAB, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. I love looking at drawings of rail yards.

    A often practice in the old Ozarks was that the R.O.W. ran down the middle of the street before the town grew up.

    At 1st Lebanon depot the town would not work with the railroad for the town to pay for the depot. So the railroad went out of the town ~ 1 to 2 miles and paid for their own depot.

    That again happened later, perhaps for another (freight?) building. The town started to move out towards and to the station as it grew up. The original main street merchants then did not do so well.

    Before the depot from the east, there was two switches, each far apart. For some reason for a couple of miles there were two very long rail routes bowing away. From one of the 2 routes they couldn't see the other tracks. Perhaps there were two customers quite well apart? There were no other spots along the sub division where that happened.

    I think I got that story when I did a google search. The two rails paralleling very far apart came seen on an old historical topo map.



    Charles
     
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  2. Old Lebanon town is practically deserted.

    The first Lebanon station and site was called First Railroad Addition. The first Lebanon Town was to the west of present Lebanon.

    "An addition to old Lebanon, laid out in 1869 when the railroad reached the town but failed to come closer then one and a half miles. The town has now moved to the railroad addition, and the old town is practically deserted. So named because the railroad was the cause of the addition."


    Source: The State of Missouri Historical Society. Place Names.
     
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  3. The stop's "plaque" on the depot was a slang for in the Lebanon case. At the time, Frisco crews and company records during that period of the 1st town, the depot was listed by the railroad as "First Addition" ; .... The first depot was 1-1/2 miles away from (1st) Lebanon town and nothing else was there at that railroad's First Addition property. The Frisco "First Addition" name was because the town would not provide (not pay for) a depot. The 1st Lebanon town died and the new people moved into "First Addition". The new Lebanon that still exists now.
    Source: State of MO Historical Society.
     
  4. Was this the 1st Frisco depot, 1.5 miles away from the current city of Lebanon, MO?

    Lebanon depot "First Addition Frisco property?

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  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    This is a section house dwelling.
     
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  6. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    There were several of the two-story section house dwelling versions in Missouri.

    Newburg, MO, Dixon, MO and others had them. I lived 100 yards from the one in Dixon.

    It saw NO maintenance, but the Wilson family lived there. It had an out-door privy.
     
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  7. quiz: Year of the picture ?
    Lebanon's depot - Lebanon's South Pacific and its other railroads over 150 years

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    ^^^ https://www.visitlebanonmo.org/p/about/history ^^^

    The first railroad reached Lebanon in 1869 by the South Pacific Rail Road Company of Missouri which had incorporated May 12, 1868 for only $300,000. It took control of the Southwest Branch on July 1, 1868 from the Southwest Pacific Railroad where the 1866 Atlantic and Pacific had been a major investor.

    By the Southwest Pacific Railroad in 1866 to 1868, the rails had been constructed from Rolla to Arlington, MO near the Gasconade River. The Pacific Railroad had grated the railbed there before it defaulted.

    From there the South Pacific Railroad Company of Missouri started their westward construction in July 1868, getting the rail line to Lebanon in 1869. A passenger train of the South Pacific Railroad reached North Springfield on May 3, 1870.

    October 6, 1869, the South Pacific started business for fright and passenger services to Lebanon. They then owned the Southwest branch rail line from Franklin, now Pacific, MO, to Lebanon. In 1870 the South Pacific reached North Springfield. They then owned the Southwest branch rail line from Franklin, Pacific, MO, to Springfield.

    Operations:
    1870 Map from St. Louis to Springfield for the South Pacific's Southwest branch.

    Interactive MAP Link .

    https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4041p.rr005640/?r=0.039,0.048,1.084,0.467,0 ].

    Click on the map to zoom in. Then move around and zoom in more. This 1870 map shows the other surrounding railroads and some of the planned constructions for the future are also shown.

    1871 the first locomotive into Springfield, MO of the new Atlantic and Pacific Missouri Division railroad.

    Frisco Museum photograph; Alan Schmitt, was Executive Director of the Frisco Museum, Springfield, MO. first locomotive into Springfield, MO of the new Atlantic and Pacific Missouri Division railroad.
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    On Oct. 26, 1870 the SW branch line became the Atlantic & Pacific Missouri Division Railroad. For that the A&P assumed the debt of over $7,000,000. that the South Pacific had sold bonds to pay for the construction the railway system from Arlington to Springfield MO.

    Then in 1876 the A P MO Div RR defaulted and reorganized to be the St. Louis San Francisco Railway Company, Inc. who consumed that debt of the South Pacific Railroad company. All of the Southwest branch tracks were operating by 1878 by the SLSF Railway Company. By then those in Lebanon had seen its third Southwest branch railroad during the first eight years.

    The Frisco operations were until 1980 when absorbed by the successor railroad.

    References:
    https://www.visitlebanonmo.org/p/about/history
    https://thelibrary.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswatch/ow702k.htm
    https://sites.rootsweb.com/~cappscreek/galleryrr.html --
    These newspaper ads were by the South Pacific and Atlantic & Pacific Railroads*.
    [ * Source: Newspapers are on microfilm at the State Historical Society of Missouri.
    The Society has a project to digitize its microfilm of historical newspapers.
    These newspaper Ad images are from the Society's microfilm.
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    Attachments below:
    1) MAP of the construction route from Arlington in 1868 to Lebanon in 1869.
    2) Map showing part of the 1.6 million acres Land Grant for the SW branch. The Maps shows Land Grants from Rolla to Lebanon.
    3) South Pacific newspaper ad in Springfield in 1870. South Pacific newspaper ad for services and operations to Lebanon.
    4) The letter to invite persons to Lebanon for the South Pacific Railroad's 1869 Grand Opening Celebration.
    5) Picture of Lebanon Frisco depot taken sometime between 1878 to 1902 when automobiles started. The picture shows a horse and wagon, but no automobiles. frisc-lobanon_depot-railroad-.jpg
    6) South Pacific Rail Road Companies' 1870 map for the Southwest branch then operating to Springfield, MO.
    7) Map shows Southwest branch operations during 1870 from Franklin to just past Lebanon.
    8) Map shows SW branch operations during 1870 from Lebanon to Springfield.
    9) Land grant acreages for sale. A 1870 statement by the South Pacific Railroad Company of Missouri.
     

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  8. In addition to the above, here is posted a write-up from the State Of Missouri Historical Society about the 1851 Pacific, 1866 Southwest Pacific, 1868 South Pacific, 1870 Atlantic and Pacific Missouri Division and the 1876 St. Louis San Francisco railroads.

    All of which operated on parts that had been constructed of the southwest branch that originally was chartered by revision of law in ~ 1850.

    The law also created about 1,000,000 acres of Land Grants for the railroad(s) for right of way along the southwest branch.

    https://shsmo.org/manuscripts/rolla/r1288.pdf
     
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  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    From Richard Crabtree on the Frisco Rails Across Missouri Facebook group.

    The last Frisco passenger train at the Frisco depot in Lebanon Missouri, May 13 1967.

    Cliff Kierstead

    Note the “Last Run” sign from Rich Eichhorst's American Association of Railroaders group.

    One of their mottos, “Ride ‘em while you can!”

    Lebanon Mo - last Frisco Passenger train May 13, 1967.jpg
     
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  10. mike_newton

    mike_newton Member

    My cousin who lives in Lebanon had a picture of the west end of the Lebanon Depot.

    This picture is supposedly from around 1982.
     

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  11. mike_newton

    mike_newton Member

    This is another image of the Lebanon depot roughly around 1980.

    This is really neat because the train order semaphore is active and the train order is being hooped to the conductor. You can see the conductor's arm reaching out for the order. I think this is train No 35, but it could be No 33. I do not think it is No 33 because it does not have any automobile racks up front.

    But I would really appreciate comments on what you all think.

    Lebanon Depot 1980 _n.jpg
     
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  12. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The conductor would have been on the rear end.

    The fireman or a front end brakeman would have caught the hoop.

    Great picture. Shows that even in CTC territory, train orders were still issued.
     
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  13. Collin Wilson

    Collin Wilson Member

    Here is the departure board from the depot in Lebanon, MO.

    It is one of my most prized possessions since I am from Lebanon.
     

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