Mincke, Missouri - where?

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  1. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Does anybody know where Mincke, Missouri is/was?

    I'm guessing somewhere on the line between Moselle-Robertsville-Catawissa-Pacific on the Eastern Division, but that's just a guess. :confused:

    Obviously, this location was the inspiration for the cover design on the Frisco public timetables.

    Ken
     

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  2. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    If what I found on google is correct it was/is just a few miles west of Kirkwood in St. Louis County.
    Bob Wintle
     
  3. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Got it! Thanks Bob. Mincke is just west of Morschels, before Eureka, well east of Pacific. The Meramec River is to the northwest of the tracks there, so the train on the PTT is running westbound. The view is looking east.

    OK, so where did they get the E8B? ;)

    Ken
     
  4. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Maybe they got it on (wait for it here it comes) EBay!
    Bob Wintle
     
  5. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    They obviously got the E8b from Rivarossi!!!!
     
  6. MODiesel

    MODiesel Member

    Some Mincke (Hollow) history, written in 1977:

    In 1878 an area near the railroad in Tyson was leased from the Henry Mincke family for fifty years. A quarry was set up here to mine the limestone in the area. This area was known as Mincke Hollow. It was a hilly area where about fifteen houses were built. They were small three to four room houses. A small area would be cleared to build each house and provide a small yard. The residents of Mincke would remain there for only fifty years until the lease expired. These people were a type of migrant worker, they lived where they, found work. When the quarry ended in Mincke they would go on to- the next job. There wasn't any farming in Mincke the land in Tyson is extremely rocky. The people didn't have much livestock; there were only about two cows in the town. Food would have to be brought in by train or most often from Valley Park. Mincke was designed to meet the needs of the community. There was a schoolhouse in the town the furthest of the structures located down the road from the quarry. The schoolhouse was built to accommodate the workers' children and the children from nearby Crescent. There was also a general store located near the railroad tracks and a boarding house opposite the quarry. The boarding house would accommodate the workers who came in by train to work for the week and return home on the weekends. The road that went through Mincke was lined with the houses on either side. It would be periodically covered with cinders from the kiln'. The quarry was located above this road on the cliff. The receding line of the cliff today suggests the former state of the hill. Located below the quarries were the kilns. There was a road that went 'up the side of the hill from the railroad 'to the quarry. A train switch had been laid on this road to enable, the men to easily transfer the limestone down to the kilns to be processed and then to the railroad tracks to be transported by train. If one walks through Mincke today evidence of the areas' past activities still retain. Foundations from the homes, the general store, and the kilns can still be found among the remnants of this ghost town. In the caves the holes that were used to place the explosives for blasting are visible. The lease on Mincke expired in 1928. Everyone moved on abandoning their homes.

    I've also attached some pics of the mine and the area around it.
    miincke1.jpg miincke2.jpg mincke_hollow_foundation.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave1.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave2.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave3.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave4.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave6.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave7.jpg mincke_hollow_quarry_cave10.jpg
     
  7. Mincke Hollow is somewhat right of the E8A and off of the picture.
    I guess you could call it the Mincke bluff river-run? Those are not real bluffs in
    the pictures;.... they chopped off of the hill ends between the hollows in the Tyson mountain range.
    Tyson Hollow can not be seen behind the train (farther down stream).
    Min(c)ke Flats is way behind the passenger train and can not be seen.
    The mountain seen afar is Castle-wood State Park.
    Ref:
    USGS 7.5-minute image map for Manchester, Missouri

    This Mincke river-run is different from the near Moselle (nearer to Robertsville) river-run 1913 postcards (2 attached).
    The near Moselle river-run is one continuous bluff (very steep hill) (not having hollows reaching the river).
    The Mincke river-run has a bowing towards & along the river.
    The near Moselle has an inward V-notch halfway along that river-run.

    So the near Moselle postcard mystery has been solved.
    The first attachment is a westbound train before the V-notch.
    The 2nd attachment is an eastbound train before the V-notch slight turning of the ROW.
     

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