St. James, MO, Rolla Subdivision, MP 100.4

Discussion in 'Depots Q-Z' started by douglas, Jun 23, 2004.

  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    John,

    Here is the depot floor plan from the Richard E. Napper collection.
     

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  2. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Thank you all!

    I am going to model it as it was in the 1950s, that is the era I am modeling.
     
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  3. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Looking forward to seeing some progress images of this build.
     
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  4. geep07

    geep07 Member

    I have been investigating how to model the asbestos hard shingled siding that was used during the 1950s.

    Evidently there appears that no one makes this type of siding.

    Any information would be appreciated.

    Otherwise I will be using lap siding.

    John
     
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  5. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Maybe look at slate or 3-tab roof shingle sheets for the transite shingles? .

    I know Rusty Stumps carries 3-tab shingles.

    Please see their website.

    https://www.rustystumps.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D5001

    I will be in the same boat when it comes time to build the Clinton, MO depot.
     
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  6. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    If you have to, use lap siding.

    You will want a wider board than HO-scale siding. Best I can remember the asbestos siding on the house I grew up in was about 8-10 inches from one course to the next.

    It was a pinkish brown!
     
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  7. geep07

    geep07 Member

    The shingles have a irregular bottom.

    It has sort of a wave curve to it.
     
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  8. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Also, it appears that the bottom foundation was concrete blocks.

    They installed siding over it later?
     
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  9. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    John,

    My Olathe, KS depot had the same siding.

    I initially tried cutting strips of short styrene and overlapping them ever so slightly, but did not like the results at all.

    Instead, I just scribed lines in the styrene walls and called that good enough.

    Best Regards,
     
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  10. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Chris,

    Thanks for posting.

    Any photographs of your Olathe, KS depot?

    John
     
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  11. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    John,

    I was thinking about your asbestos siding issue last night and it occurred to me that the stuff was only around a 1/4" thick.

    What about printing the vertical seems between tiles on paper and then cut a wavy edge on the bottom?

    Apply it to a wall the same way American Model Builders (AMB) roof shingles work.

    It is just a thought, it was used on a lot of houses as well.

    Once again thanks for letting me operate last Tuesday.

    The layout looked good in photographs, but it looked even better in person and ran very well.

    For anyone who has not been able to see it, be sure and take the opportunity.

    John has done an amazing job.

    Brad Slone
     
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  12. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Brad,

    Thank you for the compliments, glad you had a good time operating the layout.

    Do you or anyone have any information on what color the St. James depot was back in the 1950s?

    The color photographs from Mr. Lawler on this site shows a depot buff color.

    I guess I could just make it this color with white trim and call it a day!

    John
     
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  13. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    John,

    Here are five pictures I have of the St. James, MO depot.

    Unfortunately, I do not know the dates nor the photographer. The last two might be mine as I do recall taking pictures of it back in the early 1980s when son Kurt and I were in the area on a combined Frisco and fishing trip.

    If so, timing would be 1981/1982. It looks totally different the last time I saw it a few years ago.

    Anyway, hope these help you decide how to finish your model.

    Ken
     

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  14. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Thanks Ken!

    Depot buff and brown trim is my lean too paint color scheme.

    Was the bottom made of tile siding, concrete blocks or ornamental stone?

    Once I get that information I can start on this project.

    John
     
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  15. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    John,

    Based on all the pictures that I can see, it looks like tile siding is consistent.
     
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  16. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    If my memory serves me well, the standard Frisco depot colors in the 1950s were a grey field and white trim.

    An example would be the #2 post on this thread about Cuba, MO.

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/cuba-missouri.918/

    The floor plans indicate that the original outside finish was board and batten siding.

    Who knows when the shingles were applied?

    Rich
     
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  17. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    KC Terminal-Themed Layout, Part II

    John,

    The model and the photographs leave a lot to be desired.

    The scribing does not show up too well.

    I will try to get clearer photographs soon.

    Best Regards,
     
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  18. geep07

    geep07 Member

    I cut strips of very thin card stock to the height dimension of 15".

    Then I penciled in the shingles, the dimension width is 2 feet.

    I used a glue stick applied to each row of shingles.

    Then I sprayed on the three colors for samples, all are from rattle can spray paint.

    The bottom color is Summer Squash from Rust Oleum Accent, the middle is Light Aircraft Grey from Testors, the top is Dark Aircraft Grey from Testors .

    Rich mentions that 1950s colors for depots where grey and white trim.

    Comments suggested!

    Thanks for all your information provided.

    John

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    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

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  20. Brad K

    Brad K Member

    I am also currently modeling the depot and I have the floor plans.

    But I do not know the height of the structure or the window and door sizes.

    Does anybody have the height of the depot?
     
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