Newburg, MO - Roundhouse & Turntable

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  1. mike

    mike Guest

    Newburg, MO roundhouse - Early 1950s

    Don Wirth sent these in.

    Notice the 4100 Class Mike in the background.

    First image was taken by Art Johnson, second image photographer unknown.

    Taken in early 1950s.

    Don, thanks for sharing these with us.
     

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  2. Postcard of the Frisco roundhouse and turntable at Newburg, MO.

    Note the inclined ramp above the gondolas leading to the elevated coal dock.

    FM

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  3. palallin

    palallin Member

    I have this photograph saved on my desktop, and I have a Google satellite image open on my second monitor. I cannot reconcile the two.

    This photograph shows the near wall of the roundhouse almost parallel to the yard tracks, but the overhead image shows clearly that the roundhouse back wall was toward the tracks, and the side wall was nearly perpendicular to them.

    I do not know what coaling arrangement was used at Newburg, but there is certainly no room for the trestle ramp leading up to the right between the roundhouse and the tracks in this photograph.

    So either this photograph does not show the Newburg roundhouse, or maybe it shows an earlier one that was replaced by the one clearly visible in the satellite imagery. Go to Google Maps, find Newburg, switch to satellite imagery, and zoom in on the town.

    You will not be able to miss the roundhouse foundations, inspection pits and turntable pit in what is now the Little Piney Community Park.

    Does anybody have definitive information?
     
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  4. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Wait until Don Wirth and/or Ken Wulfert chime in, they can fill in all the details for you.

    Tom G.
     
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  5. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    This was the first roundhouse.

    Brad Slone
     
  6. palallin

    palallin Member

    Makes sense.

    Does anyone know where I can find out dates?

    Thanks!
     
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  7. I'll ask my dad.

    He lived there then.
     
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  8. Well, not much but here is what he knew.

    The second roundhouse went up late teens to 1920 was his guess. It was there before him. He was born in 1937, he said going to the roundhouse with his dad in the late 1930s and early 1940s it was already very dirty. The floor was grease covered and the inside covered in soot.

    In my barn I do have the vice from the first roundhouse in Newburg. It is very heavy and very heavy duty with well over 100 years of use. Notice it doesn't swivel which makes it awkward to use. His dad got it when they tore down the first roundhouse and put it in their garage.

    He brought it with him when he left Newburg in the late 1950s. Here is a couple pictures. Interesting it is Rock Island but not railroad just a forge company. I am not sure if there is a way to figure out when it was made from the casting.

    Any vice aficionados out there?

    Hope this helped a little.

    Steve

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  9. palallin

    palallin Member

    Useful information and excellent pictures.

    Thank you!
     
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  10. You are welcome.

    Glad you liked it.
     
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  11. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Bricks from the original roundhouse were used to build the theater in Newburg which is still there.
     
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  12. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Don is correct.

    The Lyric Theater, Newburg, MO.

    Ken
     
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  13. palallin

    palallin Member

    I can guess that they built the second before razing the first, which should mean that the earlier one was either to the west or east, right?

    Where was it in relation to the later one?
     
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  14. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    It would have been west and north a bit from the "new" one.

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    Edit 4/5/2024: Note above and slightly to the left of the barn the Houston House.. The building has a small gabble end facing Front Street. This was a boarding house and restaurant frequented by train crews.

    On the far left is the first roundhouse at Newburg. Out of sight beyond the left edge is an elevated coaling dock.

    Added photograph narrative.
    MKD
     
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  15. palallin

    palallin Member

    Yes, I see that! Thank you!

    Interesting that there are two water tanks. Supplied by the Little Piney, no doubt.

    And I guess, then, that the trestle ramp did lead up to a coaling facility of some type, still further to the west.
     
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  16. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Newburg, MO roundhouse - Early 1950s

    The two shots of the empty roundhouse and 4100 sitting in the weeds are the roundhouse at Newburg, MO.

    One by Art Johnson and one by Wayne Leeman I think.
     
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  17. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Newburg, MO roundhouse - Early 1950s

    Newburg.

    Burg, not Berg.
     
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  18. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Newburg, MO roundhouse - Early 1950s

    Thanks Don for the correction.

    I should have known better.
     
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  19. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Newburg, MO roundhouse - Early 1950s

    Newburg, MO, on the SLSF Eastern Division.

    The Valhalla of all Friscodom.

    K
     
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  20. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Newburg, MO roundhouse - Early 1950s

    Now see, this is what I hold most dear about this outfit.

    It is the ability of everyone that bothered to opine, has a say, and can be advised of a discrepancy, and it all is a learning, if not entertaining endeavor.

    Great stuff guys, please "carry on".

    What a classy website this is.
     
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