182-187 4-4-0s Modernized

I am inclined to believe that only the 183 and 187 received the green treatment, and like Don, I believe that it was short-lived.

http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco...%5F11%5F16.pdf

 

I just received a picture of 187 on the QA&P in her tear down time from retirement. So sad. So very sad. I'll see if I can post it.

 

Link to a little bit of Frisco info about passenger service to Perry, Ok, engine # 185, the demise of steam, ect.

http://www.cherokee-strip-museum.org/Beers/Beers-19950715.htm

Haven't gone thur all the the articles listed there in the side columns, but more interesting info is available at the museum.

 

I noticed the water level gauge on the water tower. As it indicates, is the water level low? or is it the opposite full? Does each numbered level indicate gallons, ft. etc....

I was born in '51 by the time I knew anything about railroading, all the steam locomotives were gone and the water towers!

 

Geep07 noted and wondered: "I noticed the water level gauge on the water tower. As it indicates, is the water level low? or is it the opposite full? Does each numbered level indicate gallons, ft. etc...."

It could be either way. If there was a float inside connected to a line over a pulley to the weighted marker outside, a higher level in the tank would put the marker lower on the gauge. On the other hand, there could be some kind of mechanism that followed the tank level, though I am not sure how they would do that.

The answer for this particular tank would come from close scrutiny of the numbers. If low numbers were near the top, the first mechanism operated. (I just looked at the picture. The numbers are pretty easy to read and lower numbers are near the top, so it is a float-pulley-marker system. What do the numbers mean: hundreds of gallons, thousands of gallons?)

George Nelson

 

George - after looking at the drawings for the Beaumont tank, my guess is that the gauge shows feet of water left in the tank. From that, someone, no doubt, made a crib sheet showing how many gallons per foot.

 

The spacing looks about right for feet of water in the tank given the scaling of the photo.

 

Most of of the tubs used in Frisco tanks were 16'-0 x 24'-0. The lettering on the indicator boards are marked in 1 foot increments. The indicator is as George speculates. Inside the tank is a galvanized steel float that hangs on a line that travels over 2, 6" sheaves. Therefore, the indicator will be low on the indicator board when the tank is full. Since a cubic foot equals 7.48052 gallons, each foot of water in the tub equates to about 3382.39 gallons.

 

Thanks, Karl, for the good modeling information about the tank. It would appear the water would drop just over a foot to fill the tank on the 4-4-0. Judging from the position of the marker, that may have happened just before the picture was taken!

G

 

Hi,

New to the list, resurrecting an old thread. Are there any surviving technical documents, drawings, ect., related to the upgrading of these locomotives?