Historic Depot Paint Colors, Paint Liveries Or Paint Schemes - Exterior And Interior - Inquiry

Discussion in 'General' started by Bradley A. Scott, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    From his book by Don Banwart Rails, Rivalry and Romance, page 314, “The Frisco Paint Gang arrived in Ft Scott in the Spring of 1922, and painted all the buildings. The new “lead” color gave the building(s) a brighter appearance than the traditional “red” previously used. “

    This periscope helps confirm some previous assumptions.
    1. Frisco depots and other structures were indeed red.
    2. The switch from red to gray (lead) occurred during the early 1920s.
     

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  2. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks for the update, Karl.

    I felt like I struggled for a long time to come up with a "good enough" color match for the Olathe depot under construction on my workbench.

    The original article and the update both help considerably.

    Best Regards,
     
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  3. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Karl.

    This is very helpful.

    Somehow I missed the original post.

    Dale Rush
    Carthage, MO
    (Modeling the Clinton Sub in N scale)
     
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  4. john

    john FRISCO.org Supporter

    I stumbled onto this today and it reminded me of this thread.

    Monett Times, 9 September 1921:

    "The section house is being repainted today. The Frisco which has always painted their railway offices and buildings red, is now painting them gray."
     
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  5. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Historic depot paint colors, paint liveries, or paint schemes from the late 1880s-mid 1890s best guess information request.

    Anyone?

    If no one has better information, I will be going with red/oxide red for my Frisco depots in my V scale rendition of the Frisco from Monett, MO to Talihina, OK.

    Andre
     
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  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    My best guesses
     

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  7. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Excellent summary.

    I am going to go back and paint my trim dark gray.

    -Bob T.
     
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  8. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Thanks Karl.

    So, possibly it was a three tone scheme?

    Ugh. Worst possible scenario for virtual painting using photo textures.

    I do know that some of the earliest photographs I have of the Frisco on the Ft. Smith Subdivision, probably not called that at first, shows some light colored depots.

    Such as this one that is allegedly an early train captioned as 1881 and as the "first" train at Rogers, AR.

    StLSF_1stTrainToRogersAR_May10_1881.jpg

    Then there is this photograph of what is suspected to be the Rogers, AR roundhouse dated early 1880s.

    RogersRndHouse_ca1882right.jpg

    Then there is what might be the original depot at Combs, AR that is obviously dark.

    However, could it be this depot was constructed under the ownership of the Fayetteville and Little Rock (F&LR) Railroad, thus a different color all together and yet to be repainted by the Frisco?

    That is is now Frisco property is insinuated by the mileage figure on the "COMBS" sign.

    CombsDepot_ca1890s.jpg

    Total confusion reigns on my part. Thus the temptation to just use oxide red.
     
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  9. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I was under the impression that they were generally grey with white trim.

    Forgot where I read that back during my Zalma Branch research.

    The restored depot in Puxico, MO was grey and white but modern restorations are not exactly the best reference.
     
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