Neodesha, KS, Carthage, Wichita Subdivisions, MP 401.4

Discussion in 'Depots G-P' started by RICHCRAB, Nov 1, 2005.

  1. RICHCRAB

    RICHCRAB Guest

    Hi Frisco Folks!

    Here are the photographs I have came across for Neodesha, KS.

    Take care,

    Rich


    Ship it on the Frisco!
     

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  2. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Does anyone have a photograph that they could scan and post of the Neodesha, KS brick depot that stood until at least 1973?

    It is listed on the Ed Stoll CD mentioned on the loop, but I do not possess a copy.
     
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  3. Peddling Joe

    Peddling Joe Frisco Employee

    According to the November 1918 Railroad Magazine, page 39, the wood structure caught on fire and burned down September 24, 1918.

    This may or may not assist with the time frame of the brick building search?

    Good luck,

    Joe Felin aka Peddling Joe
     
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  4. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    Bob,

    I have 14 pictures of the Neodesha, KS depot, too many to post.

    What is your snail mail address?
     
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  5. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Richard,

    Go ahead and post the pictures.

    That is what we are here for.
     
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  6. Kerry Elkins

    Kerry Elkins Member

    frisco depot 1970.jpg

    Sorry, I have this picture from years ago and it is only about 6k.

    A rogue program that accessed my pictures back then printed Please Register on all of them.

    I would think that I should have a bigger image of it, but I can't find one.

    It is also a pretty poor angle, but the only picture that I am aware of.

    I used to run NeodyGrads.com and had it posted there.
     
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  7. slsf580

    slsf580 Member

    Richard,

    I would really like to see your photos of the Neodesha depot.

    Can you post them or email me?

    slsf580@hotmail?

    Mike Sypult
    Rogers, AR
     
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  8. friscorr

    friscorr FRISCO.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    This is something I put together in 2004 or 2005 when I was building the Frisco KD4 for MSTS.

    I built it using the best photographs I could fine.

    Just a warning, I have learned much since then when it comes to modeling.

    Codeman

    [video=youtube;KJpmRrPMIjU][/video]
     
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  9. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I am not seeing it.
     
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  10. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    Here are my pictures I took in 1974 of Neodesha, KS Frisco depot.

    All of my pictures are Tiff files, very big, average 16 MB for black and white. I converted 12 pictures to JPEG, but they are still over 1 MB apiece. I have up loaded them but I do not know if they will show up.

    If not let me know and I will cut a CD and send them to Mike to post.
     
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  11. slsf580

    slsf580 Member

    Thanks Richard!

    Mike Sypult
    MP 333 Central Division
     
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  12. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    Mike,

    I will do it tomorrow.
     
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  13. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    I shall try again.
     

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  14. slsf580

    slsf580 Member

    These are great photos.

    This was quite an impressive building.

    I am assuming this was at one time the headquarters for the Kansas Division?

    Did it also contain a Fred Harvey restaurant?

    I'm assuming the depot was torn down around this time, 1974?

    Thanks, Richard, for taking the time and trouble to put these on this site!

    Mike Sypult
    MP 333 Central Division
     
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  15. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    I do not think the Frisco ever had a Kansas Division.

    Neodesha, KS was in the Northern Division, Wichita Subdivision. You will have to go to Mike Condren's site and look up the floor plan for this depot. I am thinking the upstairs was a dormitory, but I am not sure of that.

    Also, the floor plan should tell you when it was torn down. I looked at the floor plans, no Fred Harvey Restaurant, but the second floor had a dispatchers office so you may be right about it being the Kansas Division Headquarters.
     
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  16. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    There was indeed a Kansas Division.

    The moniker lasted informally for years after it was consolidated circa late 1915 with the Northern Division.

    In Pentrex's video about the A&M, there a segment in which crew members talk about working on the Kansas Division (KD) Line.
     
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  17. slsf580

    slsf580 Member

    I've been reading William Bain's 1961 book Frisco Folks and he mentions on page 26 that Neodesha is to become the headquarters of the Kansas Division of the Frisco.

    Again on page 36, he mentions the Neodesha Division Shops, 1882-1927. There are some photographs that show a 12 stall wooden roundhouse that was built in 1881. Later in the book, around page 61, he reports that a May 1907 fire destroyed 5 stalls.

    In 1884 the station included a dining hall. First depot was built in 1879, wood frame, two story.

    The second depot built in 1898, wood frame, and was destroyed by fire on September 24, 1918.

    In 1925, the Frisco built an impressive brick station that lasted until at least 1974.

    Mike Sypult
    MP 333 Central Division
     
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  18. Kerry Elkins

    Kerry Elkins Member

    Here you have the 1880 Frisco Depot and Dining Hall.

    Neodesha Frisco Depot & Dining Hall 1880.jpg

    2nd is the Neodesha turntable in 1910.

    Neodesha Frisco Roundhouse Engine 1907.jpg

    3rd is a group of Neodesha Frisco employees (not on strike I am told)

    Neodesha Frisco Employees.jpg

    4th is a long view of the roundhouse.

    Neodesha Frisco Roundhouse 1911.jpg

    5th is the brick roundhouse.

    Neodesha Frisco Roundhouse 1882.jpg

    6 & 7 are the Frisco depot I have listed as 1907

    Neodesha Frisco Depot.jpg

    NeodeshaFrisco Depot 1907.jpg

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  19. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    This photograph shows a horse drawn wagon loaded with freight in front of the St. Louis-San Francisco Railway Company depot in Neodesha, Kansas.

    Date: Between 1890s and 1900s

    http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/443762
     
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  20. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I can remember long ago listening to a Cardinals game and Harry Caray would fill in the dead spots with "they're here from Podunk".

    One night he spent about three minutes trying to figure out how to say Neodesha.
     
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