Stock pens may have been as common as depots. When I peruse old drawings its not that uncommon for a stock pen to exist at a station even where a depot doesn't.
This is swell, Karl! The Sanborn Map I have for Hayti gave general outside dimensions of the stock pen at that location. This plan will go a long way toward getting the job done. Anyone ever model a stock pen from scratch? I don't seem to see too many of them modeled; yet my 1925 station guide has upwards of 20 pages full of stock pen information on the SL-SF. Perhaps they're too generic - seen one, seem them all? I think they'd be a good candidate for spotting a car or two, but I do not know how often locations outside of ranching areas would have been orders for MTY stock cars to be loaded. However, I digress. Perhaps another thread in the making. Many thanks for sharing, Karl!
Nice modeling, L.H.C.! I especially like the hay rack. Of course, after looking up the data, Hayti's stock pen did not sport a hay rack. At any rate, the track plan is shaping up so that I can spot 2-4 cars there. I've put in a message for some of the Chaffee folks regarding the stock pens at that location. I've not been able to find any maps or charts showing where they were located. However, if I'm reading the 1925 guide correctly, it was a rather vast complex with: 8 - 87' x 101' pens 4 - 64' x 72' pens 1 chute and 1 alley Water supplied by hydrant with a water trough. No hay racks. No scales. Thanks again for sharing the photo - looking forward to more!
Stock Car Roster By Key Benchmark Years - Stock Pen Retirements - Northern Division Frisco Stock Car Roster by Year 1934 - 1438 cars 1935 - 1397 cars 1940 - 1064 cars 1945 - 740 cars 1950 - 721 cars 1954 - 436 cars 1961 - As of January 1, 1961 the Frisco had 66 single deck stock cars and 10 double deck stock cars. 1967 - By 1967 they were all gone. I looked through my Northern Division B&B records and I have the following dates for stock pen retirements. Ret = Retired Rblt = Rebuilt Par = Partial Retirement, 1 or more pens retired. Extant = Facility still in existence circa 1955-1958. Kansas City Subdivision Merriam - Rblt 1926, Ret ?? Lenexa - Ret 10/11/24 Lackmans - Rblt 1/7/49, Ret 12/24/52 Olathe - Ret 1947 Bonita - Rblt 1940 Extant Ocheltree - Rblt 1921, Ret 1933 Springhill - Par 1945, Extant Hillsdale - Ret 1944 Paola - Rblt 1924, Par 1934, Ret 1945 Henson - Ret 2/28/49 Fontana - Extant La Cygne - Reblt 1927, Par 1945, Extant Boicourt - Ret 3/10/49 Pleasanton - Par 1945, Ret 1951 Linton - Ret 7/25/25 Prescott - Extant Fulton - Par 1945, Extant Hammond - Par 1934, Extant Shown in Banwart's book about Ft. Scott, Rails Rivalry and Romance Ft Scott - 3 Stock Yards Native - 13 Pens, 3 Pens Ret 1929, Extant South Quarantine - Stock Yards, 14 Pens, Extant Other 7 pens Extant through 1958 appears in Banwart's book about Ft. Scott, Rails, Rivalry and Romance Kansas City Subdivision - Rich Hill Branch Rich Hill - Ret 7/17/25 Sprague, Crabb, & Hume - Ret 1927 on account of Rich Hill Branch line abandonment. Ash Grove Subdivision Garland - Par 41, Extant Arcadia - Extant Last Chance - Ret 8/25/24 Liberal - Ret original 1945, Rblt 1945, Extant Iantha - Extant Lamar - Par 1945, Rblt 1945 with wire, Extant Kenoma - Extant Golden City - Extant Lockwood - Par 1954, Extant S. Greenfield - Extant Everton - Extant Ash Grove - Par 1947, Extant Bois D'Arc - Extant Elwood - Ret 5/7/33 Ash Grove Subdivision - Aurora Branch Greenfield - Extant Pennsboro - Ret 5/6/33 Miller - Extant Mt Vernon - Extant Afton Subdivision Anna - Extant Farlington - Extant Girard - Extant Beulah - Par 1938, Ret 4/48 Cherokee - Rblt 1/23, Ret 1950 Scammon - Ret all except chute and Platform date ?? Columbus - Ret Scale 1929, Extant Miami - Rblt 1920, Extant Afton Subdivision - Girard Branch Waco - Ret 8/28/43 Lone Oak - Blt 1933, Extant Asbury - Ret 1942 Parsons Subdivision McCune - Extant Monmouth - Par ?? Strauss - Extant Laneville - Ret 4/14/28 Dennis - Extant Mortimer - Ret 7/10/25 Carthage Subdivision Wentworth - Ret 7/10/25 Sarcoxie - Extant Reeds - Ret 7/22/27 Carthage - Ret 1945 Carl Jct - Ret 1933 Crestline - Ret ?? Hallowell - Ret 8/26 Oswego - Ret 1941 Altamount - Ret 1947 Mound Valley - Extant Cherryvale - Rblt 4/18, Extant Brooks - Ret 1950 Neodesha - Rblt 24, Extant Wichita Subdivision Fredonia - Par 1947, Rblt with wire 1947, Extant New Albany - Ret 8/21, New 8/21, Extant Fall River - Par 1946, Rblt with Wire 1946, Extant Severy - Par 1947, Extant Blodgett - Extant Beaumont - Ret 1946, Rblt 1946, Extant Keighley - Rblt 10/25, Expanded 1939, Extant Leon - Rblt 24, Expanded 1945, Extant Haverhill - Ret ?? Augusta - Par 1/22/45, Extant Lorena - Ret 9/3/25 Andover - Rblt 9/19/16, Ret 6/28/22, Left Platform and Chute Burrton Subdivision Valley Center - Ret 1943 Coleman - Extant Bentley - Rblt 2/17, Extant Patterson - Rblt 2/27, Ret ?? Burrton - Ret 1951 Buhler - Ret 1951 Medora - Ret ?? Carter Spur - Ret ?? Matheson - Rblt 3/17, Extant Wherry - Ret 9/9/25 Saxman - Par 1943, Ret 2/20/53 Pollard - Ret 7/25/28 Frederick - Ret 9/18/25 Lorraine - Rblt 5/27, Extant Ellsworth - Ret ?? Carthage Subdivision - Carterville Branch Empire - Ret ??
I am sure stock pens were built in areas that did not load cattle, but were used to rest cattle on the way to market or processing plants. Stock cars were also used to move horses and mules for farming and transportation. My great grandfather was a horse trader in Wichester, TX on the San Antonio and Aransas Pass (SA&AP) Railway. He had 15 acres of pens and stables, buying equine stock at the Ft. Worth Stockyards. He would ship/receive as many as two or three loads at a time. As a side note, turkeys were raised "free range" in the cotton bottoms of Texas where they would eat bugs off the plants, but not hurt the plants. These large flocks were herded on horse back and shipped live in stock cars, at least before "good" refrigeration came into existence. I suspect the cars were prepared with some sort of water throughs or feeders before shipment. I bet they were loaded at a standard stockyard chute.
I just rediscovered this thread, and am jubilant to find that the Olathe stock pen was not retired until 1947. Now I have to figure out how to selectively compress it into the available footprint that we've modeled up to this point. Karl, had you posted standard plan drawings previously on this thread? I don't see any attachement and am wondering if it may have disappeared inadvertently? I'm hoping that I printed any drawings out when you first posted this, and that I have them filed away in my Binder O' Drawings. Best Regards,
Might be worth mentioning that stock cars were also commonly used to haul various types of melons during harvest season.
Very worth while to mention that, Brad. I'd like to say that I knew this, but I didn't! Any thoughts on the latest possible dates this may have occurred? Certainly not after 1967 based on Karl's chronology of stock car numbers. I've seen other road's vented boxcars that were specifically designed to handle melons. So, having a stock car carded for this type of shipment makes perfect sense. Best Regards,
Many thanks, Karl. When we were not at soccer or the Sunday Cardinals' game, I spent time either laying track or trying to figure out how in the world I'm going to compress the Olathe stock pen, freight house and Champlin Oil Co. into my available space. This plan should help me considerably. Best Regards,
