Locomotive Frisco on Russian banknotes

Discussion in 'General' started by Frisco1054, Sep 8, 2021.

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Is it the same locomotive on photo?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Frisco1054

    Frisco1054 Member

    The locomotive Frisco # 1054 is depicted on Russian money. The banknotes were printed in the USA by the American banknote company, which also printed valuable documents for St. Louis–San Francisco Railway.
     

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  2. Gabriel G.

    Gabriel G. Member

    Frisco1054,

    Neat find. Pity I can't read Cyrillic, because I would love to know what year that bill was printed.

    Gabriel G.
     
  3. Frisco1054

    Frisco1054 Member

    3 rubles 1917 Harbin, Russi-Asiatic Bank
     
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  4. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    The bank note locomotive looks like it has a Wooten (wide) firebox and front windows on the cab are curved. The locomotive in the photo has a narrow firebox and it appears the front opening of the cab goes all the way down to the running board.
     
  5. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Also, the loco on the bill has a square number plate and the Frisco locomotive has a coonskin number plate.

    I can't think of a single reason why Russian money would have something American on it.
     
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  6. Frisco1054

    Frisco1054 Member

    Everything is described in more detail here - https://www.facebook.com/detailedbonistic.
    Who cares, use the Google translator.

    P.S. The square number plate is explained by the fact that this is not a photo, but engraving on metal plates. The number plate is very small and it is natural that its shape has been simplified.

    P.S.S. As a collector of train notes, I have no doubt that this is an American locomotive. The American banknote company also printed similar banknotes for many countries in Latin America and even China. All banknotes were printed with drawings of American trains.
     
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  7. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    Per Wikipedia, the American Bank Note Company still exists, though its current main office is in Stamford, CT. During the early 20th century its headquarters were in New York, NY. It is not hard to imagine an engraver for that company would look nearby when tasked with finding a locomotive to put on a bank note.

    I believe his inspiration came from a Reading locomotive that may have been used on the Philadelphia-Jersey City route. There is the Wooten (wide) firebox and the resulting curved front cab windows. In addition, the Reading built its first 4-6-2 G-1 Pacific types in 1916. The first of the series was 105 and these digits are on the bank note locomotive's number plate. In my opinion the locomotive on the bank note looks more like one of the P-7 4-4-2 Atlantic types finished around 1916.
     

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