Hello, new member here...but not "new" to Frisco. Currently live in Rosewood Heights Illinois, which is "just across the river" from St Louis...but grew up in Ferguson...and Rolla, MO...where I was born. Great Grandpa Campbell was a "Frisco Man", who worked out of Newburg...I don't have a whole lot of information, but I've been told he "wore a suit everyday". James Riley Campbell (went by "Jim", I'm told). I know I have "kin folk" in most of those small towns down there...Doolittle, Jerome, Rolla, Dixon...ect...and spending alot of time visiting family in Rolla after we moved to St Louis, I spent alot of time between the mid sixties to the 80's roaming around town, going to "Frisco Park" (Where 1501 is stuffed and mounted :-( ) and walking those rails..so I guess Frisco is sort of ingrained in me... When Dad Died a few years back, I inherited about 3/4 of his HO Train collection...he was a St Louis boy who married a Rolla Girl, and he attended MSM back in the late 50's/Early 60's...so it was I guess natural he'd model Frisco...and I gladly added all that HO to my N and G scale railroad "empire"...it fit in, because I had not modelled much Frisco up to that point. Dad had a small amount of "memorabilia...a couple Frisco stock certificates, a collection of "Round Tuits", a display of buttons off a uniform, ect....it's the fact that it was all his that means the most. Thanks for having me...I tend to lurk alot, because there's always so much to read and learn from everyone else!
Welcome to frisco.org John! A good group, glad to have you with us. I'm from St Louis also, Frontenac, but my wife and I moved to Naples, FL in Sept, 2016 to get away from the cold winters. I attended MSM 1960-1964, chemical engineer. Wonder if I ever met your dad - what was his first name and what was his major? The Frisco's Eastern Division sure was fun to watch in those days! Ken
John, welcome aboard. Lurk away. I had a great-great Grandpa Campbell myself when I was a wee lad, in an old Frisco town (Morley, Mo.) but he was a non railroader. Can't go wrong with a name like that, though.
Hey ! Turns out Southern Pacifics SSW St. Louis and Southwestern was closer than I thought. I remember the SSW locomotives and the Cotton Belt Route. the/bp
John, Glad you joined frisco.org From the above, you have a lot of Frisco kin s in this central area of the north central Ozarks. I just finished a new conversation about the Frisco from Newburg to Lebanon Milepost: 181.8I Attached it is here below and it is your welcoming gift. I hope you will be very active. Enjoy the site, Media and Archives. Feel OK to start a conversion ! Another new member happens to lives on a mountain top next to the rails at MP164 just westward from Richland. He is Jesse Henry, that is also his frisco.org handle. You guys may have a lot to share together! Sincerely, Charles member mountaincreekar That new conversation is: Names along the way. North-central Ozark Area mountaincreekar Member This north-central Ozark area was great important to the St. Louis San Francisco Railroad Between Springfield and St. Louis, throughout the area were vitail stations, crew establishments, water tanks, coal, supplies & storages, maintenance shops and roundhouses. Newburg to Lebanon - FRISCO NAME PLACES Newburg A town founded in 1883 by Captain C.W. Rogers. It was first referred to as "the new burg" by the railroad men when the roundhouse was moved to this point from Dixon. It became a massive complex with a large rail yard and a large roundhouse. One of the largest between St. Louis and Springfield. Many crews were stationed there when steam locomotives were the Kings of railroading. Since diesel locomotives replaced the steam engines the size of the operations has greatly decreased. Arlington Is along the Frisco. The hamlet is just before the Gasconade River. The place was laid out by T.C. Harrison and named for his old home, Arlington, Virginia. Today it is the next by the railroad location after Bundy Junction. Bundy is a wye type junction and is the starting point for the railroad spur that ends within Fort Leonard Wood. The wye junction allows trains from both directions to enter the army base, but also as a place to turn a locomotive around. Jerome Phelps County Milepost: 123.7 After Alingtom Jerome is across and along the Gasconade River. Jerome became a summer resort, a settlement and post office on the Frisco Railroad. Laid out by W.F. Greeley under the direction of General John C. Fremont in 1867 when the railroad was finished to this point, and named Fremont Town in his honor. Then became known as Jerome, it had a population of nearly 1500 from 1867 to 1869, but when the railroad was built further, the town was practically deserted. The first settlers were Catholics. Gasconade River, the longest river in Missouri. It "got its name from the way certain persons bragged about their exploits when they returned to St. Louis." Eaton says the name was applied by the early French to the Indians living on its banks who bragged about their exploits and that the name is also descriptive of the waters of the river, which are "boisterous and boastful." The name is from the French word "gascon," a boaster, braggart, a Gascon. The Gascons, inhabitants of the province of Gascony in France, were noted for their boastfulness. The verb, "Gasconner," means to brag. Also "gasconnade" is a noun meaning boast, brag. "Gasconer," to brag and "gasconade" n. are English words. DIXON vvv DIXON At one time it had a round-house for 4 engines Milepost: 134.6 Dixon was founded in 1869, The surveyor, Milton Santee, suggested the name of the town, as his hometown was Dixon, Illinois. Dixon Missouri serviced engines and also provided the location for railroad crews to change until 1883. Dixon; DIXON This beautiful scenic overlook features striking rainbows and eagles The story behind the name came from an Indian who owned the land in the 1800s. In those days he didn't want people to know his heritage, so he told them he was of Portuguese descent. DIXON Off to the right, one will see an area that takes you back through a section of the original Route 66 pre-1940. This section was abandoned when realignment occurred, which is now the section that takes you through Hooker's Cut. This area is only accessible by foot traffic now. When started the Route 66 was gravel road; pretty rough. Some travelers filled their back seat full of wheels with bounted tires. digital download page.
Community of Hancock Missouri Hancock was established in 1869 and was first named Iron Summit. The name was changed to Jap Hancock after a Frisco official when the railroad acquired it in 1877. There are other places in the Ozarks which were named after a railway official, the site's construction's chief engineer or other significant employee. Such shows the importances of the railroad arriving. This village on the Frisco Railroad was laid out in 1869. The place was first known as Iron Summit because there is iron ore there and it is on one of the highest points in the county. Frisco Depot Museum, Crocker vvv Frisco Depot Museum, Crocker The South Pacific Railway built the original depot in 1869. It was later in 1889 due to tremendous growth. This depot did more passenger and freight business than all the other towns in the county. The depot was located further south on Hwy 17. The city moved it to this current location and opened the depot as a museum which is open by appointment and during special events. Visit the City Hall for access. Crocker County: Pulaski Milepost 146.5 A town laid out in 1869. It was built so was abandoned. Named for a stockholder in the A. & P. Railroad, who lived there. SWEDEBORG A Swedish settlement Milepost: 152.1 County: Pulaski The Swede Company purchased the site. in 1876 . The village of Swedeborg was named in 1883 by Swedish immigrants that bought the land from the railroad company. Frisco built the depot in 1881. Swedeborg was a fuel stop for locomotives and was known prior to 1883 as "Woodend", for the piles of cordwood locals stacked along the railroad right-of-way. Over the years the town had at least two major fires and was hit by two tornados, 1927 and 1937. The old saying that a tornado will not set down more than once at any location is not true. RICHLAND County: Pulaski MILEPOST 158.8 Named to honor Mr. G. W. Rich, a director of the old Atlantic and Pacific Railway. Richland also had two depot. One from 1869 and another built in the 1950s. The most exported item in the 50s? Goldfish, from Ozark Fisheries located just north of the city of Richland on Hwy 7. Perhaps there, it such of had the name of Goldfish Junction? ha ha MP164 is Jesse Henry's private crossing. Jesse has his own crossing sign. It is very remote on a mountain top. Before 1930, the site was called Garnsey, but there was nothing except the railroad. Garnsey was likely just the property owner of those vast forests. Often for miles along there, from the rails the land drop off very quickly. To the south the high site overlooks Bear Creek that flows into the Gasconade. From Garnsey, Westward is Stoutland at MP 167.5 vvvv STOUTLAND Milepost: 167.5 Stoutland Milepost: 167.5 Named for Captain Stout, one of the directors of the Atlantic & Pacific Railroad. In both Camden and Laclede Counties, a portion of it lying in each.
Sleeper A post office called Sleeper was established in 1883, and remained in operation until 1955. The community was named after "Sleeper", a railroad employee. The story continues this railroad official often was noticeably tired. Had a railroad station and a post office since 1874. Named for a construction gang foreman who built the road. It was first called Sleeper's Switch, the spur having been constructed to a coal chute built there. Helm A station on the Frisco Railroad in northwestern Union Township. Named for the man who entered the land. Brush Creek A hamlet in the southwestern part of Lebanon Township which is a flagstop on the Frisco Railroad and has been a post office since 1860. First Railroad Addition An addition to Lebanon, laid out in 1869 when the railroad reached the town but failed to come closer then one and a half miles. The town has now moved to the railroad addition, and the old town is practically deserted. So named because the railroad was the cause of the addition. Huben Named for Jail Huben, a railroad official. A railroad switch is there. Lebanon To the east, the rail route separated into two separate rows, which were quite far apart that one could not see the other. All that is now a ghost railroading history. vvv Lebanon Laclede County Milepost: 181.8 The name was changed from the original Wyota, and it took its name from the Tennessee hometown of one of its leading citizens, Not the only Ozark community to be named for a prior home. became known as the “Wire Road” because of the telegraph lines installed along it between St. Louis and Springfield. As America expanded west from St. Louis, a road has always run through Lebanon, Missouri. At first it was just a rough Indian trail, as tribes like the Wyota and Osage. Lebanon started to into its own, as a town, in the 1850s. During the Civil War, Lebanon was continually occupied, usually by Union troops trying to protect the telegraph line. City Map showing the Frisco Railroad City Map The railroad came to Lebanon in 1868, and it changed the town forever. The Frisco Railroad built the station a mile away from the main part of town, because the city fathers had refused to donate land to them. This refusal to donate land kept a previous attempt to bring the railroad to town when the St. Louis-San Francisco Railroad proposed building a depot in Lebanon. With the location of the Frisco depot being south of Old Town the locus of the community permanently changed. Businesses naturally moved alongside the rails, and the “new” town was born. The tracks run parallel to Commercial Street, which is still the center of Lebanon today. The railroad served as the first big boost to Lebanon’s economy and guaranteed its growth by attracting commerce and industry to the formally rural area. The town has a manufacturing plant to make whisky barrels. Magnetic Water Perhaps the most unique piece in Lebanon’s history is the magnetic water. A worker digging a new city water well in 1889 found that his tools could pick up nails. The water had magnetized them. Bathing in the magnetic waters was said to have healing powers and visitors came to bathe in them, and drink from the well. In 1983, Governor Kit Bond dubbed Lebanon the "Aluminum Fishing Boat Capital of the World;" with companies such as Tracker Marine, G3 Boats, Lowe Boats, Landau Boats, and Osagian Canoes all having factories there. https://www.lebanonmissouri.org/DocumentCenter/View/1444/Map-of-Lebanon?bidId= https://www.lebanonmissouri.org/366/City-Maps The website of the State of Missouri Historical Society has lists of Name Places for each county. An example is https://shsmo.org/manuscripts/ramsay/ramsay_pulaski.html
----------------------------------- St. Louis and San Francisco Railroad The only railroad in Laclede County; the Eastern Division running from St. Louis to Springfield crosses the county from the northeast corner to the southwest. The railroad never reached San Francisco. The road was originally (in 1869) called the Atlantic and Pacific because it was intended to span the continent History of railroads in and near by were, Atlantic and Pacific Railroad SLSF 1866 1878 St. Louis and San Francisco Railway St. Louis and San Francisco Railroad SLSF 1896 1916 St. Louis – San Francisco Railway St. Louis and San Francisco Railway SLSF 1876 1896 St. Louis and San Francisco Railroad St. Louis – San Francisco Railway SLSF SLSF 1916 1980 Burlington Northern Inc. Burlington Northern Inc. BN 1970 1981 Burlington Northern Railroad Burlington Northern Railroad BN 1981 1996 Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway Pacific Railroad MP 1849 1876 Missouri Pacific Railway Missouri Pacific Railroad MP MP 1917 1997 Union Pacific Railroad Missouri Pacific Railway MP 1876 1917 Missouri Pacific Railroad St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway MP 1874 1917 Missouri Pacific Railway Union Pacific Railway UP 1880 1898 Union Pacific Railroad Sligo and Eastern Railroad SL&E 1902 1929 N/A Sligo Furnace Railroad SLSF 1880 1881 St. Louis, Salem and Little Rock Railroad Crawford County Midland Railroad SLSF 1904 1907 St. Louis and San Francisco Railroad Dent and Phelps Railroad SLSF 1877 1881 St. Louis, Salem and Little Rock Railroad Missouri Central Railway RI 1871 1881 Central Railway of Missouri Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad RI, ROCK RI 1948 1980 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway, Chicago and North Western Transportation Company, St. Louis Southwestern Railway Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railway RI RI 1880 1948 Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad Rock Island – Frisco Terminal Railway RI/ SLSF 1906 1957 Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad, St. Louis – San ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Those in the conversation: mountaincreekar Member Ozarktraveler Member pensive Member wpmoreland719 Member Jesse Henry Member
Thank You for all the additional information, Mountaincreekar! Always good to see pictures of God's Country back in the day.... Still try to get down there when I can. Spent a week last summer poking around Springfield (The week the DUWK sunk in Branson, we were camped out west of Springfield proper, at the KOA (right along the main line ;-) ) going to try and get down around Cuba for a weekend soon to poke around as well.
John, - Stations shown above may of have been demolished except for Crocker (Museum) and another 1 or 2. - Rolla has Frisco 1521 4-8-2 mountain type locomotive park - Newburg has some of a rail-yard. - Phone calls to city officials to tell if stations and rail customers here are still here . - Check google maps/aerial-view or Google Earth might help you plan a trip within that area. - Harrison, AR has the Boone County Historial Museum with the M&NA Railroad room. - Branson Scenic Railroad & depot. - The Leadline tracks and bridges south of Cuba to Buick are still in place. - There are a couple of Frisco museums in Springfield ad the Greene County Library/ w/ Frisco RR collection. . - The old Frisco railways from Springdale to Van Buren, AR is now the active Arkansas & Missouri RR that has passenger car excursions and sometimes their A&M caboose. They have one dome car as first class. A few times they have a dining train. - Along those old Frisco rails are Winslow Tunnel and south from there are two very high steel trestles. - Van Buren, and Fort Smith have historial areas. - Fort Smith has the trolly museum & outsides old Frisco steam locomotive and old rolling stocks. Trolley rides through the downtown. Check our website for Fort Smith far many things to do. - From Van Buren to Fort Smith is the old Frisco Swing Bridge that now has a ewer lift bridge section. The lift bridge rises for tow boats. - Fort Smith has an operation rail yard, Fort Smith National Park and several history museums. - At Missouri University in St. Louis, is the http://www.umsl.edu/mercantile/barriger/index.html Barriger railway library. - St. Louis is the Lambert Airport to within IL. the narrow gauge transit trains, - See the St. Louis Arch - Pacific and Eureka, MO downtowns have railfanning parking to view about 2.5 trains per hour. A great place to eat fast food while railfanning. Charles
SWEDEBORG Guy on the left has not lost a meal. All that one other are trim. If it were today, most others would not likely be trim ha ha
John, - Stations shown above may of have been demolished except for Crocker (Museum) and another 1 or 2. - Rolla has Frisco 1521 4-8-2 mountain type locomotive park - Newburg has some of a rail-yard. - Phone calls to city officials to tell if stations and rail customers here are still here . - Check google maps/aerial-view or Google Earth might help you plan a trip within that area. - Harrison, AR has the Boone County Historial Museum with the M&NA Railroad room. - Branson Scenic Railroad & depot. - The Leadline tracks and bridges south of Cuba to Buick are still in place. - There are a couple of Frisco museums in Springfield ad the Greene County Library/ w/ Frisco RR collection. . - The old Frisco railways from Springdale to Van Buren, AR is now the active Arkansas & Missouri RR that has passenger car excursions and sometimes their A&M caboose. They have one dome car as first class. A few times they have a dining train. - Along those old Frisco rails are Winslow Tunnel and south from there are two very high steel trestles. - Van Buren, and Fort Smith have historial areas. - Fort Smith has the trolly museum & outsides old Frisco steam locomotive and old rolling stocks. Trolley rides through the downtown. Check our website for Fort Smith far many things to do. - From Van Buren to Fort Smith is the old Frisco Swing Bridge that now has a ewer lift bridge section. The lift bridge rises for tow boats. - Fort Smith has an operation rail yard, Fort Smith National Park and several history museums. - At Missouri University in St. Louis, is the http://www.umsl.edu/mercantile/barriger/index.html Barriger railway library. - St. Louis is the Lambert Airport to within IL. the narrow gauge transit trains, - See the St. Louis Arch - Pacific and Eureka, MO downtowns have railfanning parking to view about 2.5 trains per hour. A great place to eat fast food while railfanning. Charles
