Howdy folks, I'm sure most of you have seen or own John Winfield's paintings of the Frisco. I consulted folks on the forum about where the meteor might pass at night and John painted his latest, Frisco Meteors. Check it out here: http://winfieldart.com/currently-available-prints/. Have fun, Mike Corley
Wow. Thanks Mike. 2010 is the unit my great grandfather was assigned to when he passed away. We will be getting one of these for sure.
Howdy, it looks like there is an order form on his site: http://winfieldart.com/order-form-2/. You could probably call him, too: 817-924-9301. ~mike c
Where was it decided that the Meteors really met? In the background it sure looks like the Grant Avenue Viaduct in Springfield! That actual meet could have happened in Springfield easily if the westbound were late. A truly wonderful picture if there ever was one!!! Tom G.
He had the painting over half finished when he asked about the location, so that could be Springfield. I reported that the meet was someplace else, so I think he put it aside for a while. My take is that is was a late run, so plausible.
Looks like during my time riding the Meteor, (1960-1964), assuming both were on time, they would pass each other somewhere between Aurora and Monett. When #9 is passing Aurora, #10 is at Monett. When #9 reaches Monett, #10 is passing Aurora. I don't have my track maps any more - where would the passing tracks be (milepost)? Tom - Assuming the painting is set at Springfield (it has to be!), which train is #9 and which is #10? I'm not familiar enough with the location to determine what direction we are facing. The fact that the diner/lounge/observation still has its boat tail indicates that this scene was long before I had the pleasure of riding the Meteor! Would have to check an older TT to see where they passed back then. K
Looks to me that we're facing east and a late #9 is at the left, with #10 on the right. Each train had they been on time used the far right track, known as Track 1 at the depot. Tom G.
Meteor910 asked: " ...where would the passing tracks be (milepost)?" Current Google Earth images show a passing track 3 miles west of Aurora (m.p. 269.9) on the northeast side of Verona. The Verona siding would therefore be m.p. 273 (+ or -). The same images show double track beginning 2 miles east of Monett (m.p. 283); A meet could have been in that area, but the schedules suggest it was closer to Verona. Reference to track charts will confirm whether the Verona siding existed at that time. I checked schedules in my copies of the February 1957 and December 1960 Official Guides. They indicate #9 would have to arrive in Springfield 1:46 late in 1957 and about 2:35 late in 1960 to set this scene. (Blame the eastern connections! ) The February 1957 schedule does show #4 "The Will Rogers" arriving eastbound in Springfield at 12:35 M and #9 departing at 12:36 AM, so #9 did meet an eastbound Frisco train in Springfield in 1957.
ETT from Jan 1956 shows that 9 and 10 did meet at Verona at 1:16 AM. Number 9 and number 4 met at Springfield. The passing track at Verona was 176 car-lengths.
USGS 1:62500 1943 Monett quadrangle shows no double track near Verona and only a short (~3/8-mile) siding at "Globe," a little over 2 miles east of Monett. With no siding, Aurora or Monett were the only options. I wonder when the Verona siding was built
When the Frisco installed CTC within a given territory, some passing tracks were retired and other were lengthened. Will have to look the date when this occurred on the Springfield Sub.
There were CTC sidings all over the place. Way out in the country as well as at towns and stations. Tom G.
I think we are missing the point that this is another beautiful rendering by Mr. Winfield and it matters not where the meet was. I have ordered mine and will place it along side the fine prints I have of his. Tony LaLumia
