0-6-0 SLSF 3804

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  1. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I bought a negative from a bloke in England of the 0-6-0 SLSF 3804, has to be shortly after Frisco got her.

    What is rare to me is that she has the original tender and is a coal burner.

    Negative is not that great, but it was taken in 1920, so I sure cannot complain.

    Do not have a clue as to location.

    Kansas City maybe?
     

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  2. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Cool photo, Don.

    Looks like a freight house behind the engine, and over to the right sure looks like the West Bottoms area of Kansas City.
     
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  3. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Rather than a freight house, might that be some kind of office building?

    Looks like some pull down shades on those windows.

    Just my opinion.

    Tom G.
     
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  4. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    The tender is darn near bigger than the power.

    What a statement that is to me.

    This begs me to question, could a switch crew work 12 hours on a tender charged as pictured?

    Bear in mind I have no practical experience nor knowledge of same.

    I bet a 0-6-0 switch engine had some "chili".
     
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  5. Steamnut

    Steamnut cinder sniffer

    I am still researching, but it appears that the building's signs give a clue.

    "Gates Nichols Hardware" and "Bowers Furniture Hospital" shared an East Fifth Street address in Tulsa, OK around 1920.
     
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  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Where were the USRA 0-6-0 3800s based?

    Did they keep them all together at one location, or were they found system-wide here and there?

    K
     
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  7. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Dandy photograph Don.

    Nice acquisition for sure.

    Good detective work Darren.

    The compilation of steam locomotive assignments that I had gleaned from old employee magazines.

    Steam Locomotive Assignments 1924-1933

    It showed SLSF 3803 and SLSF 3805 working in Tulsa, OK.

    If SLSF 3804 was in the same class, I wonder if they would have been assigned to the same location, not unlike the 2-8-0s SLSF 956-965 that were all assigned to North Springfield, MO?

    Ken,

    I know I have seen photographs of at least one, maybe two, that seemed to have been regularly assigned to Kansas City, MO.

    I distinctly recall seeing a photograph of one at the southern end of the 19th Street Yard near the American Royal building.

    Cannot remember which one(s) though, but would have to look.

    Best Regards,
     
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  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Was it Kay Kyser that would say "That's right - you're wrong!"?

    SLSF 3748 is the one I remember seeing in Kansas City, page 221 of Frisco Power.

    The caption for photographs of SLSF 3801 and SLSF 3804 both show them in Tulsa, OK.

    The latter is a C. T. Felstead photograph and shows SLSF 3804 as an oil burner.

    Quoting Collias, the Frisco "assigned [the 3800s] to southwestern terminals such as Tulsa...their appearance east of Springfield, MO was a rare event."

    Need to learn to look before I leap.

    Best Regards,
     
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  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    That is a very nice find, Don. Thanks for posting.

    It is the first photograph that I have seen of an as-delivered SLSF 3800.

    Toward the end, SLSF 3802 was converted to coal and wound up in Birmingham, AL.

    She was sold to Republic Steel during January 1952 and became 2-286 She was retired August 1966.

    One or two of the 3800s did work 19th Street Yard in Kansas City, MO.
     
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  10. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I think they were coal burners only for a very short time.

    They were mostly assigned to Tulsa, OK.

    I can remember as a young lad strolling through the Lindenwood Yard roundhouse after steam was retired and seeing one of them stored in there.

    I had never seen one before.
     
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  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    According to my great-grandfather, sixteen tons of coal would move a typical freight train from Chaffee, MO to Memphis, TN in one full shift.

    I believe it is possible.
     
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