4-4-0 SLSF 91

Discussion in '4-4-0 American' started by meteor910, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I was looking through all my Arthur Johnson photographs last night for old times sake and ran across this one.

    This is not one of Art's. It has no identification of the photographer on it, and I have no idea where I got it, probably at a swap meet.

    Thought those of you who model the old Frisco might enjoy it.

    Ken
     

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  2. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Wonder if that could have been one of those engines that was continually refurbished and re-numbered into the 180 series and lasted into the diesel era?

    I would guess from the looks of the freight car the photograph it is circa WW I.

    Might be too old for the 180 series?

    Tom G.
     
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  3. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Why do you do this to me?

    I have to have this engine! For Pete's sake, man. First it was my Frisco 4-4-0 SLSF 151 and now I am suddenly obsessing over 4-4-0 SLSF 91. Lucky for me I have a spare IHC old time 4-4-0 to kit bash and the experience to add DCC and sound. Here we go again!

    Thanks for posting, I think. :)
     
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  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    4-4-0 SLSF 91, nee SLSF 41, nee A&O 4, did not survive the mass extinctions of 1914-1915.

    It was scrapped during August 1915.
     
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  5. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim,

    The devil made me do it! :)
     
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  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here is the loco diagram for 4-4-0 SLSF 91.

    This is from the 1904 Frisco locomotive diagram book.

    Kind of primitive, but it gives dimensions for Jim's new kit bash project!

    Ken
     

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  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thank you.

    I am going to get as close as I can using what I have to start with.

    I need to find a stack and decent headlight casting.

    I will post my progress when this gets off the ground.
     
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  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim.

    I am sure you have seen the Vollrath photograph of 4-4-0 SLSF 151 used for your kit bash.

    Have you seen the locomotive diagram of SLSF 151?

    If not, I have it if you want me to post it.

    Ken
     
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  9. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I do not believe that I do.

    I would appreciate it if you would post it.

    I love those old 4-4-0s.
     
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  10. Who is A&O RR?
     
  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here she be.

    4-4-0 SLSF 151 from the 1904 Frisco loco diagram book.

    Ken
     

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  12. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thank you.

    That is very kind.
     
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  13. SteveM

    SteveM Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Would that be the line from Rogers, Arkansas to Grove, Oklahoma?

    It was an independent line that Frisco bought but soon shortened into the Bentonville Branch in the early 1900s.

    I do not think I have ever seen a locomotive roster.
     
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  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    When I was looking at my diagrams, and I saw the A&O 4, those were my thoughts, too.

    As I looked through some of early locomotive records, I could only find the reference to the A&O on the diagram. All the other records, pointed to the previous number, SLSF 47, but none of the records noted anything about the A&O.

    Since the A&O was built circa 1898-1900, that leaves 29 years of the locomotive's life for which we cannot account. This gap, no doubt, explains the lack of any builder-related information on the locomotive diagram.

    Please see the following link posts #14 & #15 for some info on the A&O.

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?291-Forms-amp-Documents&highlight=stockton
     
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  15. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Old thread but it has become more relevant for me.

    I have been wanting to model the old 4-4-0 SLSF 91 for a while. Now I am getting motivated to begin the project. I will be using a Rivarossi 4-4-0 old timer which is a tad over scale for for an old wood burner but will be a fair candidate for this locomotive project.

    The 4-4-0 SLSF 91 appears to be a slightly larger type of locomotive. I have some irons in the fire right now but I will get this going sooner than later.

    Here is a photograph of what I am working with.

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  16. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    This should be very interesting to watch.

    You certainly have your work cut out pushing ahead. Both the cab and boiler need extensive modifications, just to get close, but I have seen you in action.

    Looking forward to this project.
     
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