Pre 1934 Brownwood, MO Track Diagram?

Discussion in 'River Div Track Charts/Industry Schematics' started by Jim James, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    My next big project will be modeling the remaining portion of the 8 mile long Zalma Branch from Geenbrier to the main line at Brownwood. The tracks crossed the main at a 90 degree and continued south towards Aquilla. There were some switches that connected the branch lines to the main line. Does anyone know of a diagram that would show the track arrangement? This will make operations much more enjoyable.
     
  2. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim, there are generally four different possibilities for the track alignments. If you will ignore the absolute perpendiculars in my sketches, I think the first one would be most likely, however crossings would have been difficult and expensive. The first without the vertical may have been more likely, with the depot aligned on the east-west track.
     

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  3. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Here's a Brownwood photo looking east towards Advance with the depot on the left and the crossing is right at the corner of the depot. The track heading to the left is northwards towards Zalma.
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  4. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    This is what I have for Brownwood, it is kind of an unusual layout for a crossing .

    Roger
     

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  5. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Roger, you're the man!:) :) Everything I need to know and I've never seen this before. Even has the water tank and everything thing else shown. This could be a switching layout all by itself. Thanks a million. I don't guess you have a page showing Richardson, Greenbrier or Zalma?
     
  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Wow. Who would have ever guessed that Brownwood was such a thriving location?

    Jim, we eagerly await updates on your layout expansion.

    Best Regards,
     
  7. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Up by the railroad section house is a building labelled the "Blind Tiger". Now that piques my curiosity.
     
  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Sounds like a moonshine shack:)
     
  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Further research indicates that term was slang for a speakeasy.
     
  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Based on that track diagram, the only was to get to Aquilla was to be headed westbound or south, and the only way to get to Zalma was eastbound or north. Interesting indeed!
     
  11. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I wonder if that switch north of the depot on the east side should face north towards Zalma instead south as drawn? That would make it way more functional.
     
  12. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I agree. I am also skeptical about the manner in which the Tram crosses the Frisco.
     
  13. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    It's hard to believe that log tram actually crossed the main line and sidings like that. Hmmm.
     
  14. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I'm going to try and selectively model this scene and the log tram would be fun. I have a photo of a home made locomotive used on a log tram(possibly this very tram). I think that this drawing was done with a main focus on the town and it's structures and inhabitants more so than on the exact track appearance which could explain the odd switch placement north of the depot.
    Building #12 says charcoal kiln but also says barrel heading factory. Barrel heading?
    I have a photo dated 1915 from a newspaper showing Mr Pritchard and family sitting on a motorized speeder sitting on the tracks which are about 20' from his front porch( building #9). He worked for the railroad and made the speeder himself. The track is just hand hewn ties sitting ontop of the ground.
    I need to figure out what commercial turnouts to use because I ain't scratchbuilding any turnouts and I don't want this switching layout to be any larger than necessary.
     
  15. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim, my guess is that a barrel head is just that, the end pieces for wine/whiskey barrels. Makes sense, any scrap pieces could be used in making charcoal.

    Having been to a backwoods charcoal plant, the area around it would have been covered in black soot.
     
  16. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Jim,

    I have a fast tracks builder that makes excellent turnouts with real wood ties and they cost less than assembly line manufactured turnouts and look so much more prototypical than those with plastic ties. If you are interested in his contact info, PM me. You won't be disappointed and he can do them in Code 55, 70, 83, or 100.

    Manny
     
  17. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    That's the neat thing about modeling earlier era's. Seems the farther you go back in time (to a point), the more you get:

    1. Towns that are nothing now were Something then.

    2. Lots of micro-industries.

    3. More trains per day.

    4. Smaller physical plant. (i.e. short sidings for the shorter trains, etc.)

    5. Smaller/shorter trains. (Plays well into the hands of a model railroad.)

    On and on!

    TOC19 RULZ!!! :)

    Andre
     
  18. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Glad to be of help! This is from a book at the Mid-Cont. Library in Independence, I think it is called "Brownwood-Then & Now, it has the photo of the depot posted below on the cover. I'm sure there would be a copy in a library in your area. Unfortunately, this is the only map I have of your line, as a matter of fact I was going to ask you if you have a track plan of Zalma. The only info I have is that it ended at the river edge parallel & east of HWY 51 but it looks like it could have also crossed HWY51 and ran parallel to Railroad St. Just like your layout only with HWY 51 between the depot & side track.

    As for the map of Brownwood I have to agree with everyone else, I think the tram line ran south but curved to the east & connected with Frisco on the west end of the north yard track, that way they could interchange with Frisco. As for the xing, I don't recall any location with this type of arrangement, but possibly on the east leg there could of have been a tradional curve from southeast (Frisco) to northwest (B&NW, below #95) that the author forgot to draw in or was not there for very long.

    That's my 2 cents...

    Roger
     
  19. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I have a poor photocopy of a platt map of Zalma dated about 1910 or so. It shows a huge area labeled "Railroad Ground". I compared this with a view from google map and there you have it. Railroad St. was actually the roadbed of the main track. A large section of land to the east of the tracks is included in the area labeled as railroad ground but no tracks are indicated. Hwy 51 could be running along the top of a siding. I'm not sure though. It looks like its a possibility.
     
  20. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Would anybody be able to tell me what common motive power would have been seen going through Brownwood along the Hoxie branch during the late teens and early 20s. I would love to stage a mainline train to interchange at the junction. I'm ready to tackle something bigger than a 4-4-0.
     

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