MOLOCO RBL re-released and AVAILABLE!!!

Discussion in 'New Products' started by nickmolo, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    http://www.molocotrains.com/store/freightcars.html

    I just wanted to let you guys know that the General American RBL kits are available again, get them before they run out. Check out some of the customer models.

    All these cars are useful for Frisco modelers, they carried the wealth of the midwest and the rest of the US into Frisco country. Like beer, wine, liquor, canned goods, cereals, flour and other dry goods, plywood, petroleum products, bottled juices and preserves, Packing House Products, chemicals, waxes, cleaning products.

    The ultimate GROCERY CARS!

    Thanks Nick
     
  2. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    What were the numbers of the Frisco cars? -Rich
     
  3. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    I took a look. I did not see the Frisco cars.
    I did see undecorated---$45.00.
    I can hardly hold back !
    Bill Jackson
     
  4. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Rich,

    The Frisco numbers for the Sill 2 12000-00 kit are SLSF 8325-8424, these were XML cars. Frisco did have other General American RBL cars as well mainly in the 6000 series cars.

    Regards, Nick
     
  5. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Bill,

    These are only undecorated kits. The particular Frisco version is Sill 2 the 12000-00 kit number. Modeling is needed, but it's not difficult just look at the on-line instruction on the description pages.

    Nick
     
  6. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    I took a second look. They have very nice detail. Is there a recommended decal package? Being in the track all my life, cars were not one of my strengths. Does anyone have a little history. Sorry but I paid more attention if they were shiny side up!
    Bill Jackson
     
  7. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Bill,

    On both pages near the bottom I provide links to decals that can be had, including the Frisco decals from Mask Island Decals. Each page also has a little bit of history and the car uses.

    Nick

     
  8. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Thanks for your patience. It's been a education.
    I am going to get a couple. There a little beyond my skill level.
    But as I progress, they will work good.
    Bill jackson
     
  9. cthart

    cthart Member

    I'm going to "hijack" this thread...

    I'm in a similar position. Like Bill I'm considering buying one of these. I'm good at assembling plastic kits but I baulk at using CA to glue metal parts to plastic kits.

    Any tips Nick?

    Cheers,

    Colin
     
  10. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Use a contact cement. Walthers' Goo is a heavily advertised brand, but there are plenty of other contact cements "out there." Dap, Elmer's, Weldwood, probably many others. Buy the smallest container and use a brand new container for each project.

    Tom G.
     
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  11. cthart

    cthart Member

    I have a tube of Goo: it's quite thick and stringy compared to plastic solvents and CA. Surely not a good fit for small detail parts?
     
  12. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    "Goo" is a darling of the model railroad industry (Especially at Milwaukee's Kalmbach Publishing and Model Railroader Magazine), but I'm sure there are many others as good or better and probabaly other kinds of cement that are satisfactory as well. "Liquid Nails for small projects" is also a good cement, but not the contact type. I like epoxy except for having to mix it.

    Tom
     
  13. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    I bought two of these yesterday. From the description and photo, they look to be about as detailed as it gets. I have not figured out the paint skeme yet, although I looked at the link for decals, you got me. I am thinking this might be the yellow or tan cars. I must be dense. Anyone built one of these, or have a photo? Just Frisco, I don't want to build a kit, right now anyway, other than SLSF.
    William Jackson
     
  14. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Though I use Walthers Goo often, it is usually for areas that do not require presicion, as the stuff is too stringy for me. I prefer Pliobond instead (hardware store). It is not nearly as stringy.

    I no longer use Goo on plastic, except for just a small dab. (For example, holding a Kadee brake wheel in a bigger hole in the car body). I used to use Goo to cement the metal weights to the floor of car kits, using a long string of Goo. Several times I noticed the floor of the kit becoming warped a few months later, from the Goo solvent I guess. I ACC the weights to the floors now!

    Ken
     
  15. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    There is a great pic of SLSF 8383 in Nick Molo's book, page 67. Yellow car, black lettering, open black coonskin (car color is the background), white "it" on a black background. Microscale and Oddballs, I believe, have the decals, among others. Class XML. 70-ton roller bearing trucks - can't tell from the pic if they are ASF or Barber.

    Ken
     
  16. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    I have to agree, I canot count the number of plastic cars that were ruined by glueing the weight in using GOO. I do not use it at all anymore. CA or Epoxy is so much better. For both a higly recommend Bob Smith Industry CA and Epoxy. Most good hobby shops carry it.
     
  17. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Thanks Ken, I will have to look for Nick's book. I do remember the yellow, with open coonskin and the white "it".
    William Jackson
     
  18. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Colin,

    The metal weight included has two holes that line up with two pins on the floor of the boxcar. Those two pins are longer than the weight height, therefore you can do two possible things. One is use a soldering iron to mushroom head the pin once the weight is in to secure it permanently on the floor. This could be done before the sides are glued. The other thing that could be done is make a styrene washer to fit over the pin and solvent glue it to the pin.

    The rest of the kits is mainly ABS plastic and MEK or other similar "plastic" cements should be used. The ladders and door rods are POM material, with it's tradenames like Delrin or Celcon. These parts were chosen to be in that material because of not being able to break when handled. They will need to be glued with ACC or perhaps glue, but both sparingly. The copper berylium etchings should also be ACC glued and those thinner parts were chosen to be that material so they don't break during normal handling, no broken plastic stirrups steps, no broken underframe details. All the piping on the car is made in durable wire parts pre-bent and pre-cut. You recive two sets of trucks, one a Ride-Control design with "friction" bearings, the other truck is a Barber S-2 design with roller bearings, both the 70-ton versions.

    nick

    Nick

     
  19. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Yes, William. The cars were painted yellow and the Mask Island decals were designed for that car, to do 2 cars for one set.

    http://maskislanddecals.com/decals/freight/87140.html

    Here are the illustrated instructions, which takes you step by step through the construction.

    http://molocotrains.com/store/instructions/MOLOCO_GA_50_RBL_kit_instructions_revA.pdf

    Nick


     
  20. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Thanks Nick for the Decal link. That will help me a lot. I looked through the car instructions, I found that easy on the web site. There is so many decals, seems like half the battle is finding the right one. The kit looks real nice, some have said there is a photo in the Frisco/Katy book. I am going to get it also. Morning Sun, I found it on line.
    William Jackson
     

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