DebenLLC Hoist w/S.A.& A.P. Flat car 550 on winch duty

Discussion in 'Structures' started by SAFN SAAP, May 15, 2012.

  1. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Hello Y'all,

    I got bit by the bug again today. I am sitting here waiting on the 1x1 lumber from Kappler so I can build Fredericksburg Jct, and I gotta build something. So, I looked to see what I could build. What did I grab? DEBENLLC's Sequoia 4002, Repair Hoist Kit, for my car knockers shop.

    This is a very straight forward kit. A box of wood, instructions, three pieces of casting and off to the races you go. The tools I used were simple:


    • NWSL Chopper
    • Ruler
    • Digital Caliper/Micrometer
    • MicroMark Magnetic Jig
    • MicroMark Brass Clamps
    • Elmer's Wood Glue
    • Various Tweesers
    • Pounce Wheel
    • X-acto knife
    • Various files
    • Pencil
    • Dr. Pepper
    • The Dog


    The instructions are basic. You need to know how to convert scale distances. The Jim's Dollhouse Scale Conversion Calculator online is invaluable. Key to this build is keeping everything square.
    It's a pretty straight forward build but it took me about 9 hours to complete. I added the catwalk next to the pulley, the two Campbell Fire Barrels, which I need to paint, and some of the extra bracing to shore up the hoist.
    The kit also comes with NBW's to install, which I will do after I apply the Instant Age, then stain it Oak. I'll paint the bolts with Polly S Flat Aluminum, then rust them up. I'm ordering ladders from Rusty's Stump for the crew to get on top of the hoist and getting some HO Scale chain and hooks to finish it off. I may add a small work table with tools on the side of the hoist for added realism. I definitely need to get another one for the locomotive shop. I highly recommend Richard Bendever and his wife Debbie over at DEBENLLC. Their products are great! You can visit them at: www.debenllc.com.

    Here are the pics so far. Enjoy!


    Manny


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  2. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Now that's something you don't see every day. Nice assembly work. You are full speed ahead.
     
  3. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Thanks Jim....


    FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!


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  4. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    First attempt at Fire Barrels. The lettering is dry transfers from Clover House. I scored big with them since they have the 1880-1910 letter font for the S.A.& A.P.! The bands are painted with Polly S Grimy Black. Easier to turn the barrel against the brush, then move the brush against the barrel.

    The water was an interesting aspect. Blue never entered the picture because, well, water isn't blue. I really didn't have a green fitting for water. So I tried to remember what a barrel of water looked like when I was a kid. It looked, well, glossy black; kind of oily. So I chose oily black, to represent the depth of the barrel. Meh, came out okay. I can tell that this will need a little more experimentation.

    Here are the pics so far. Once I know the Polly S is dry, the bands will get some weathered rusting. Then the barrels will be treated with Instant Age by DEBENLLC.

    Overall, I am pleased.

    Manny

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  5. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Magic Water is great for rivers, swamps and water puddles. Try a drop of that or gloss medium. Of course the gloss black paint is also effective. Just tossing out some thoughts. Looking good.
     
  6. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Well, today was a good day. I finished up the fire barrels. They are all dirtied up and covered with soot. I added some trim to the top walking plank, and another support beam for the pulley under the main section of the hoist. I also pulled out a hand winch to operate the cable with hook. It operates by chain which turns a pulley to operate the hoist.

    After making sure the glue was dry, I then drilled out the holes for the NBW's, and I then took it for its first color shot. It will dry for the overnight period. Tomorrow I'll give it another shot of Realistic Oak.

    I intend to put some dry transfer writing on the hoist:

    KEEP OFF on the corners
    DANGER on both the center posts.
    HEIGHT on the overhang
    WATCH YOUR STEP for the two ladders.

    Other things I want to add are tools like wrenches, hammers, sledges, crow bars, a few lanterns, and a some blue flags and signs.

    I've been thinking of adding a small work bench on one side. This would include an anvil, vise, and other tools they might have near this rig.

    Anyways, here are the pics so far. Not much more tonight. I am going to start painting the hoist equipment.

    Thanks!

    Manny

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  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    This would make a good focal point scene. Now don't fall and smash this one.
     
  8. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Hahahahaha. No Jim. I won't fall. I just finished putting on another coat of the Realistic Oak about 30 minutes ago. She'll dry all night before I tackle doing all the NBW and the dry transfers. One thing, I thought I got all surfaces sanded. I guess I was wrong. Some of the wood has a real rough look to it. It doesn't detract from the model. It kind of adds to it I think, but on other structures, I will be sure to be more careful.
     
  9. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Hey Y'all,

    Some good progress this morning, albeit slow and tedious as it is NBW time. I must say, I underestimated how many NBW's it was going to take to complete the kit. I have already installed thrity (30) and I have about another fifty (50) to go. I ran out so more have been painted and are presently drying.

    In the mean time, I have been searching for tools and accessories to go with the hoist. I found that Evergreen Hill Design makes an HO Scale Block and Tackle. Perfect for the hoist. They make it in O scale, so I'm buying both to see if the O scale will work as a HD B&T.

    Besides the obvious hammers, wrenches, pry irons, kerosene blow torches, anvils, nail and bolt barrels, spare pulleys, chain, rope, cable, blue flags, red flags, and water barrels, what else do you think could go with this?

    Thanks!

    Manny

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  10. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    How does one get to the Fire barrel on top???
     
  11. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    LOL...I have ladders on order from Rusty Stumps. When they get here, a ladder will be attached to the opposite end of the catwalk, and a small ladder will go from the catwalk by the barrel to the lower catwalk which is used to service the hoisting equipment. Good question!

    Manny
     
  12. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    62 NBW's and a bunch of slow, tedius work with dry transfers, I'm done for the day. The pictures speak for themselves.

    I'm working on acquiring all the winching equipment to make this operational (statically). Once all the necessary stuff to the hoist is attached, she will get a good couple of coats of Dull Coat to seal it.

    I'm tired. Enjoy!

    Manny

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  13. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Nice clean modeling skills. You're going to end up with a museum quality layout at this rate.
     
  14. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Thanks Jim.

    Ok, I fibbed. Now I'm done. I got my Rusty Stumps package in today and I wanted to check out the stairs and the jig maker. It worked great. Now I have stairs going from the top platform to the bottom one. I will stain the steps RED for safety. But that will be tomorrow.

    Enjoy!

    Manny

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  15. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Ugh! This stuff is like Crack Cocaine. You just can't stop!

    Enough though. Time for bed!

    I test fit the new stairs. Looks good!

    I added "Watch", "FT", and "OUT" to the front. "25" by itself looked awkward.

    I started to build the upper platform guard rails. I'll finish them up tomorrow. Then at that point, it's time to wait for the tools and the winch equipment to arrive.

    Good night!

    Manny

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  16. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Wow. Jim must not be feelin' well. He usually says something every step of the way...Hahahahaha! Just messin' with ya Jim. Working on the handrails again right now. Pics up shortly.
     
  17. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Sorry bout that, but it is indeed coming right along smartly Step son's high school graduation tonight and all that stuff going on. Keep up the good work. I'm ready to see it dirty and weathers up a bit.
     
  18. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Finished the upper handrails for the topside platform. This was made for worker safety. The lower platform will have a handrail also. That is being currently made.

    The winching mechanism for the hoist has been decided on. I won't give it away, other than the hint that what you will see is the equivalent of a Porsche being driven into the wrong neighborhood and being left alone for about 15 minutes while the owner goes into a unfamiliar store asking for directions. LOL...

    You'll just have to wait and see!

    Here are some pics for your enjoyment. Tools and accessories have been ordered.

    Tomorrow, or I should say later today, I am going to the hobby shop to get some styrene. I am going to make up some angle iron bracing for the lateral wood braces. Since this hoist is operating in the period of 1910-1920, it would have been upgraded with such, or possibly even replaced with a steel variant. Alas, the S.A. & A.P. is a frugal road and doesn't have the money for such luxuries. Tried and true will have to do, since this hoist was originally built in 1892!

    Manny

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  19. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    First step in today's work. Reinforcement Steel!

    I went to the hobby shop and purchased some styrene and created steel reinforcement pieces. Most are located on the base to shore up lateral motion. The main beams get two plates each on both sides for rigidity and to prevent bowing or flexing. The rear gets some bracing above to help support the compression forces caused by the idler pulley. Thank God for the NWSL Chopper! Without it, this would have been near impossible to do!

    They will be painted Polly S Grimy Black, with a light wash of rust, and of course, more NBW's!

    Now working on the rear platform railing. Here are pics so far. More to come tonight.

    Manny

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  20. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Re: Car Knocker Repair Hoist from DEBENLLC

    Often the fun is in the details isn't it?
     

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