Bolivar, MO, Clinton Subdivision, MP 153.6

Discussion in 'Depots A-F' started by aaron, Jul 19, 2003.

  1. aaron

    aaron Guest

    Anyone have any photographs, drawings, plans or information on the Bolivar, MO depot?
     
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  2. roger

    roger Guest

    There is a photograph of the Bolivar, MO depot in the book Frisco Power, page 281.

    Roger
     
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  3. bradley

    bradley Guest

    In response to Aaron DeShazo's query:

    According to the online Model Railroad Index, the NMRA Bulletin published plans for the Bolivar, MO depot in 1974.

    Please see the following link.

    http://index.mrmag.com/

    I was able to get photocopies via interlibrary loan. Citation is as follows:

    Frisco Station, Bolivar, MO
    NMRA Bulletin, January 1974, page 44
    (DRAWING, "MOON, PAUL", SLSF, STATION, STRUCTURE, PROTOTYPE, BL)
     
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  4. douglas

    douglas Guest

    Bolivar, MO depot.

    It would make an awesome model in styrene.

    Photograph dated May 1948.

    Photograph by Arthur Johnson.

    Doug
     

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  5. I have a couple of photographs of Bolivar, MO from the opening of the line to a depot photograph in the late 1930s.

    Rodger McKinney
     
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  6. If anyone is looking for some really neat old photographs of both the Leaky Roof (KCCS) and The High Line (KCOS) I have them.
     
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  7. Well, I am interested, for one.

    Can you give any further details?
     
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  8. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Ditto! Me too.
     
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  9. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    OK, here is my contribution to the Bolivar project.

    Business car SLSF 12 on the rear end of a north bound passenger train.
     

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  10. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I am more interested in the car in front of the business car.

    Is that Buffet-Lounge SLSF 1601, or was there some other car that received those AC ducts?

    Paul
     
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  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

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  12. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Nice shot! Would loved to have been on the rear platform of SLSF 12.

    Must be a hot summer Ozark day. The depot windows are open, and the official on number SLSF 12 has his jacket and tie removed, and his sleeves are rolled-up.

    The water tank is relatively new to Bolivar. A 1939 ETT does not list a water tank at Bolivar. At that time a tank was located 6.8 miles north at Cliquot, MO.
    By the time of this photograph, 1946, a tank is located in Bolivar. A 1947 ETT lists the Bolivar tank, but the tank is gone from Cliqout, MO.

    In 1939 number 20, a Bull Moose, was scheduled to meet number 55 in Cliquot at 12:02 PM.
    By 1947, the meet between No 20, now under steam, and No 55 had been changed to Bolivar, but at the same time, 12:02 pm.

    Based on the shadows, it appears that No 20 is on time. Number 55, the daily except Sunday local, must be delayed between Bolivar, MO and Clinton, MO.


    Looks like number 20 might have drawn a freight locomotive. Is that the top of a tender dog house above the railway post office-baggage? It was not unusual for a 2-10-0 Bolshevik to handle No 20 and No 21.
     
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  13. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl,

    That certainly is possible.

    The diagram I have shows SLSF 1601 and 1606 were built by ACF in 1923, and rebuilt by the Frisco as buffet-lounge cars in 1935 and 1936 respectively.

    The window arrangement indicates these were built as coaches. The cars retained coach seats for 12 passengers during the rebuilding.

    Stagner's book is another point of reference, cool. There is also an end on shot on page 97 of McCall and Schultz book Frisco Southwest.

    I have a couple of online references as well, but I will put those in another post.

    Paul
     
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  14. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Awesome photograph Don.

    Thanks for sharing.

    I think I need an eye check-up. I cannot make out anything beyond the coach.

    Accordingly, I may not be seeing correctly but it almost looks like SLSF 12 has a full-length antenna along the roof?
     
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  15. Defhoof

    Defhoof Guest

    This is for Aaron DeShazo who sort of began the talk about Bolivar a while back.

    I was wondering if you would be willing to share some of the photographs of the Highline?

    My Dad and I are in the process of modeling the Bolivar section and are trying to find out what the Frisco used to look like.

    The tracks were removed in 1993 and I think it would be cool to find out what it used to look like.

    Aaron
     
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  16. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    Bolivar, MO depot. :)

    1925 Sanborn Map.
     

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  17. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    Bolivar, MO today. :)

    Not much left other than the Frisco Lines bridge and the mention of the Frisco Highline at the rails to trails depot that has been built for the folks that ride the trail to and from Springfield.

    If you want more information on the Highline trail, click below.

    http://www.friscohighlinetrail.org/
     

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  18. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I just received this from the Polk County Historical Society.

    It apparently is the Polk County Farmers Association elevator or the old Jarman Mill. The former shown on the 1924 Sanborn and the latter on the 1909 Sanborn map.

    The Bolivar Depot would be out of frame to the right.

    This summer I plan a trip to the Polk County Museum to see what other jewels they may have.

    I say summer as they are closed until mid May.

    Bolivar Scan 15.jpg
     
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  19. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    Those are not just any birds in the air over the elevator and the crowd!

    The arrival of the President's train that day must have been part of a major event to rate the air support.
     
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  20. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Great picture and thank you!

    What direction is the photographer facing?
     
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