Standard Plan - Section House Dwelling - Cold Climate - 1906

Discussion in 'Section House Dwellings' started by Karl, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    A typical layout is depicted in the upper left of the drawing.

    A typical arrangement included the section house, the bunkhouse, tool house, privies, and well.

    cold_climate_section_hse.jpg
     
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  2. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Karl,

    Thank you for posting these plans.

    Do you also have plans for the bunkhouse, tool house and privies that could be posted?

    This looks like a good opportunity for a laser kit manufacturer to add to their line of structures. It could be marketed as both a railroad and a private residence dwelling.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
  3. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    A two-floor version with outside privy was located in my home town of Dixon, MO.

    A boyhood playmate, Billy Don Wilson, grew up in it.

    It was weathered black.

    The ICC Valuation map for Newburg, MO also showed a two-floor version on the Northwest side of the yard.

    Photographs?

    They may have looked a little like these:

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  4. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The AT&SF also had some standard designs.

    This and more were found using Google Images.

    AT-SF Syracuse KS.jpg
     
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  5. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Doug,

    I cannot enlarge this drawing.

    Think you can re-post it.

    Thanks,

    Sherrel
     
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  6. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The software won't allow it as I've already uploaded it.

    I'll e mail it to you, but I can't remember your e mail address.
     
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  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Doug,

    If you click on Edit in the lower right and select Go Advanced, you can scroll down to Manage Attachments, and remove the original, then upload the replacement.
     
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  8. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Where on the system were the two types of section houses used?

    In other words, what criteria did the Frisco use to construct a "Warm Climate" verses "Cold Climate" section house?

    Paul
     
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  9. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    About 20 years ago, Railroad Model Craftsman ran an article about section houses and featured drawings and photos of some Canadian standards.

    It also referenced Walter G. Berg's classic 1893 book Buildings And Structures Of American Railroads. Berg's book is over 500 pages. It's also available as a free download from Google.

    Chapters III and IV are about section and employee houses.

    Those two chapters are attached as a .pdf FYE.

    The little "Grizzly Flats" station copied by Disney is in a later chapter.

    Doug
     

    Attached Files:

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  10. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Don't know, but Dixon's was cold climate with the cellar under the kitchen.
     
  11. nvrr49

    nvrr49 Member

    Digging up an old thread.

    Does anyone have any good pictures they could share with us of the section houses?

    Are any still standing?

    Has anyone ever offered the Frisco specific type as a kit?
     
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  12. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Kent

    It would be a good find if someone has a photo of an actual Frisco section house.

    My guess is that the digitized Frisco Employee's Magazines on the Springfield-Greene County Library site might be the best possible source.

    It may take some scouring.

    Best Regards,
     
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  13. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Here's a photo with glimpse of a section house.

    This was taken at Brownwood, MO around 1915.

    This photo is from an old newspaper article.

    It offers a few clues at best.
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  14. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim,

    While not the subject of the thread, this picture gives me a good River Division prototype example to use for my Durango Press handcar-turned-motor car.
     
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  15. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Oops!

    My bad.

    I'm glad you got something out of it anyway.
     
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  16. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Kent,

    Apparently photos of sections house, especially Frisco section houses, are few and far between.

    And typical Frisco, just looking at the plats of Osceola and Beaumont yards, the dimensions for Frisco section houses weren't standard.

    Perhaps it had something to do with the family size for which they were built?
     
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  17. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I don't believe that one can draw that conclusion based on the Beaumont and Osceola examples.

    In as much as each was built by a different railroad, it is no surprise that each is different. It wasn't until after the Frisco-Memphis Road that "modern" Frisco came into being, and with the merger came new car and locomotive numberings and new standards for structures.

    The old "heritage" structures would remain until replacement was required.
     
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  18. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Oh, Jim, no worries.

    I was alluding to my focus on the motor car being off-topic, when the thread deals with section houses!

    I think the photo of the section house in the background remains very much on-topic!

    Best Regards,
     
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  19. nvrr49

    nvrr49 Member

    The plan online here is marginally legible at best.

    Does anyone have a copy that shows dimensions that can be read?

    I can guess from what we have up online, but I would rather be right.
     
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  20. nvrr49

    nvrr49 Member

    A couple shots of the drawings I did of the house.

    I could not read the actual dimensions on the drawing, so I assume I scaled it back a little, which will make it easier to fit on a model railroad. I made it 20' deep and 30' long with 9' side walls, as it is evident from the elevations drawings that the walls are taller than 8'.

    I sized the windows and doors to use available Tichy Train Group parts, as they are finer than I can print, and cost less than printing them at Shapeways.

    Frisco Section House for.jpg

    Frisco Section House for.jpg

    Here is a farm house I designed and printed.

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    Construction details can be seen here:

    http://nvrr49.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-house-3d-printed-down-on-farm-5.html

    Kent in KC
    nvrr49.blogspot.com
     
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